Actually, on second thought, it may belong to the previous employer's client
depending on the situation/contract/etc.

--
Mosh Teitelbaum
evoch, LLC
Tel: (301) 625-9191
Fax: (301) 933-3651
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: http://www.evoch.com/


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:00 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
> ColdFusion?
>
>
> Because the application does not belong to Isaac, it belongs to
> his previous
> employer.
>
> --
> Mosh Teitelbaum
> evoch, LLC
> Tel: (301) 625-9191
> Fax: (301) 933-3651
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> WWW: http://www.evoch.com/
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Greg Luce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:40 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
> > ColdFusion?
> >
> >
> > Isaac,
> >     Why can't you put a copy of the application on your own server
> > with test data and use it for a resume? I've done this with half a dozen
> > apps.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:01 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
> > ColdFusion?
> >
> > You're telling me... Man I'm tired of telling people " all my work is
> > behind
> > someone else's corporate firewall, but if you could see it, boy would it
> > be
> > impressive!" ... wtf? How am I supposed to write a resume this way?
> >
> >
> > S. Isaac Dealey
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> >
> > www.turnkey.to
> > 954-776-0046
> >
> > > Agreed, there are several sites I have built that no one outside the
> > > client will ever see. This makes it difficult to create a portfolio,
> > but
> > > I'm sure there are as many "hidden" sites in CF as there are public
> > > sites, if not more.
> >
> > > Joshua Miller
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:23 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
> > > ColdFusion?
> >
> >
> > > Vernon, there are probably many internal apps being developed on CF
> > that
> > > can never be viewed from the public Internet.  We are working on three
> > > major ones at present, two for Sempra Energy and one for Ernst and
> > > Young.  These are large applications being created to replace legacy
> > > ones.  I am sure there must be other such things going on out there.
> >
> > > Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
> > > Webapper
> > > http://www.webapper.com
> > > Downey CA Office
> > > 562.243.6255
> > > AIM - webappermb
> >
> > > "Webapper - Making the NET work"
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:25 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
> >
> >
> > >>The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this
> > > on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this.
> >
> > > Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is
> > > around 12 months, according to those I've discussed it with. We're
> > > really only about halfway through the cycle at this time. The overall
> > > installed CF base is pretty healthy, and growing. Here's a partial
> > list
> > > of existing CF sites we use for PR/marketing:
> > > http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/proven/
> >
> > > Even considering the upgrade cycle in the enterprise app-server world,
> > > the list of CFMX enterprise sites is growing every day. The following
> > > are a few of the CFMX sites recently sent to me:
> >
> > > http://www.ecoprimalquest.com/
> > > http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?countryid&languageid=1
> > > http://www.panasonic.com.au/hometheatre
> > > http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/ (some CF, some dynamic Flash content, some
> > > just plain HTML) http://www.reservations.broadmoor.com
> >
> > > We know a lot of enterprise-level customers have upgraded to CFMX and
> > > are in the upgrade cycle - but they don't always report back to us
> > when
> > > they go live with CFMX, so feel free to send me sites that you know of
> > > too!
> >
> > > In addition to this stuff, consider the ways Macromedia is expanding
> > the
> > > CF
> > > market:
> >
> > > *Ground-up rewrite in Java: This expands CF capabilities, as well as
> > > makes CF an option to the enterprise-level sites which want the
> > benefits
> > > of deploying on a the Java platform and the rapid app dev (RAD)
> > offered
> > > by CF. It also means current CF customers have a way to move up to the
> > > Java platform without requiring they abandon their existing apps (or
> > > their CF developers). Admittedly, this has been a challenging release
> > of
> > > CF for some, but once the dust settles, CF and the CF community will
> > > enjoy this huge leap forward.
> >
> > > *We're working to deliver the information developers need to help them
> > > be successful with ColdFusion and our other technology offerings:
> > > www.macromedia.com/desdev
> >
> > > *We're tappiing into new markets for CF:
> >
> > > -With Flash remoting, the HUGE Flash community is getting turned on to
> > > CF. While one can purchase Flash remoting for ASP, Flashers taking to
> > CF
> > > readily because of it's shorter learning curve and RAD capabilities.
> >
> > > -Dreamweaver users: OK, before you pile on me about this one, I'm not
> > > trying to debate the CFStudio/HS+ vs. Dreamweaver issue for CFers.
> > > Dreamweaver is ~80% of the HTML editor market, and these folks are
> > > moving into the dynamic application/web app development space in
> > droves.
> > > Dreamweaver MX makes their entry into the CF arena a snap with its
> > built
> > > in server behaviors that cover the most basic stuff, and CF's shorter
> > > learning curve and tagged based syntax makes CF a very attractive for
> > > these new application developers.
> >
> > > *We've delivered innovative products that are more integrated and work
> > > more smoothly with each other than ever before, offering "one-stop"
> > > shopping for industry leading technologies. This also means that we
> > can
> > > deliver well integrated technologies, and better information for those
> > > who are integrating these various technologies. But we've also worked
> > to
> > > remain somewhat agnostic with many of these innovations; many (most)
> > of
> > > these innovations integrate with 3rd party products/platforms.
> >
> > > Individually, one may not be positioned to take advantage of
> > everything
> > > we offer surrounding CF, but we see businesses moving into these areas
> > > as they begin to plan and implement new projects, and bring additional
> > > technologies & skills into their shops.
> >
> > > It's been said Macromedia should concentrate on CF improvements and
> > > fixes and forget everything else, but our efforts across the board are
> > > not mutually exclusive. We've already released one CFMX updater, and
> > > another is fortcoming.
> >
> > > Macromedia is fully behind ColdFusion and ColdFusion developers. Yes,
> > > there is definately room for improvement, as is evidenced by some of
> > the
> > > more lively discussion on this list recently. But we do listen to and
> > > incorporate to the community's feedback, while we continue to
> > innovate.
> > > Unfortunately, sometimes we can't talk about everything happening,
> > even
> > > in the face of
> > > (emerging) competition. But that shouldn't be misread as an indication
> > > that nothing is happening behind the scenes.
> >
> > > I personally think the economy has stifled some of the payoff from
> > > Macromedia's efforts, it's stifled just about everything involving
> > > economics! But eventually you will start to see these efforts start to
> > > pay off for ColdFusion and CF developers.
> >
> > > Nay-sayers can say spout gloom and doom if they will, but CF is on the
> > > way up. We're just gettin' started!
> >
> > > Vernon Viehe
> > > ColdFusion Community Manager
> > > Developer Relations
> > > Macromedia, Inc.
> > > Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/
> > > --------------------
> > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a
> > > New Internet Experience Register today at
> > > www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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