David notik said:
"Contribute seems to allow you
to lock down everything, including fonts and styles, and just allow
actual text content editing"

It's that kind of statement that makes Contribute scary IMHO (i.e. seems to
allow...).  Well IF it DOES allow AND you CAN lock down all that stuff, then
it MAY be OK.  The big question is can this be done? and who does it?  If
it's not locked down properly...BOOM....if it all can't be "locked
down"....BOOM.


That said, It's a new product so I won't moan and groan about it until
non-IT folks start destroying sites just like they have always done with
FrontPage ;-)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Notik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: Contribute and Studio Observation


> I don't think that should be a concern.  Contribute seems to allow you
> to lock down everything, including fonts and styles, and just allow
> actual text content editing.  So unless you make a living cutting and
> pasting text changes a client sends you, I wouldn't be too worried.  The
> site, the code, and the initial content creation are all done by you,
> the developer/designer.
>
> Contribute comes into play when you start getting client phone calls
> (each call lasting 10 minutes at least) asking you to make a few text
> changes, or to use the new paragraph they're about to send you, or to
> hypothesize what text might be better that what is currently there.  I
> do this too often, and it is *not* worth my time, and I'm sure I am
> losing money as a result.
>
> You could just have them buy Contribute and make the text changes they
> want.  That keeps you coding (and happy) and the client happy.
>
> If you're worried about the fact that the client will no longer call you
> to change "foxtrot" to "fox trot", you probably have way too much time
> on your hands, and I can only strongly suggest that you could probably
> make better use of creatively inclined mind.  Besides, from my
> experience, even the tiniest modification takes 15 minutes (between the
> phone call, the popping open the site, locating the page, making the
> edit, e-mailing the client about the change, winding down).  If I charge
> $125/hour, I can justify charging over $30 for "fox trot" to myself, but
> does that really make sense?  I don't think so.  Better to open up the
> content to the client, and focus on design and development.
>
> Plus, I'd bet that the fact that the client can edit the pages will
> excite him, and keep him occupied with the site, and keep them coming
> back to you for additions/modifications/answers.
>
> Personally, I welcome Macromedia Contribute with open arms.  Go MM!
>
> -D
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Hastings [mailto:paul@;tei.or.th]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:47 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Contribute and Studio Observation
>
> > wouldn't buy Contribute for the folks in your office currently using
> either
> > CF Studio or Dreamweaver -- you'd buy Contribute for the folks in your
> > office currently sending email to the folks using CF Studio or
> Dreamweaver
> > to ask them to make changes.
>
> and how long before the contribute users "think" they no longer need the
> studio/dw folks & defenestrate them?
>
>
> 
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