This is exactly my point - I've seen ActivEdit before and it's a fabulous product, and this is what I had assumed Contribute is - just a desktop-only version. And yes, you're right, JAVA Applets probably aren't the best method. I have yet to find a product like ActivEdit that works well on say a MAC running Mozilla (granted I haven't used your 3.0 product). I was merely stating that it would be nice to see our software vendor make a plugin solution for this niche. Although, perhaps not so nice for the folks at CFDev ;)
>From my experience, albeit not as much as many of you on the list, when I toss in a product like the SiteObjects editor into a customer's site, they love it. They can make the small, text-based changes that they want to make, I don't have to deal with minor text modifications or even adding photographs or links and they save money. It's not really a matter of taking money out of your pocket unless you live by small static HTML changes - if you do then I see your concern, but a desktop application that can be used without your knowledge, input or assistance would scare me more than something web-based that you setup and implement for them (like ActivEdit). From my experience, when you give customers tools to make their lives easier and that save them time and money, they come back to you for the dynamic stuff that we all love to build. Anyway, my original post was more of a cry for something like ActivEdit that would be official "Macromedia Software" that would work across multiple browsers and platforms. I guess I should just look into ActivEdit and keep my mouth shut about Macromedia making their own. Again, I'm still lost as to how anyone would lose money because of Contribute any more than they would with something like FrontPage or Dreamweaver or ActivEdit for that matter. If someone wants to maintain a static HTML site with an extremely litmited toolset more power to them. That's sort of like being worried by pen manufacturers because you're a writer - true some people will write themselves, but if they want professional quality then they'll need to consult a professional. Anyway, this is pretty OT at this point and probably belongs on another list. Sorry for starting an OT thread. Joshua Miller Head Programmer / IT Manager Garrison Enterprises Inc. www.garrisonenterprises.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] (704) 569-9044 ext. 254 ************************************************************************ ************* Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender states them to be the views of Garrison Enterprises Inc. This e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and contains information that is private and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please delete it immediately and advise us by return e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ************************************************************************ ************* -----Original Message----- From: Pete Freitag [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia Contribute >Wouldn't it be nice to make Contribute a Java application that could be >integrated into an existing web-application to give this kind of >power/control to us developers so that we could hand it out to whoever >needs to use it - and have it be web-based so as not to have to >maintain software installations on multiple users' machines? >Just a thought. At $99 it's a good deal, but it would be more useful if >it would run on the web. Actually we have such an application, ActivEdit (http://www.cfdev.com/activedit/) in the latest version it includes a Java Applet WYSIWYG Editor, and it starts at $99 as well. Granted it doesn't have all the features that contribute has. But I think your overestimating how well Java Applets work across the board. There are big issues when it comes to getting Java Applets working on Mac (mainly the LiveConnect API isn't implemented fully on Mac OSX browsers). Applets do work quite well on Windows, and reasonably well on Linux however. I can relate to Macromedia Contribute undercutting many of their customers, I don't think its helping their popularity with the development community. However customers that don't want to be tied to desktop software, and installation issues I think will still go for a web based WYSIWYG editor/content manager. _____________________________________________ Pete Freitag CTO, CFDEV.COM http://www.cfdev.com/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
