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It just means that with the high volume of messages on the list, we miss questions / topics sometimes. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:49 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Java in CF (CFMX) - MM Drivers > > > MM-Product Team... > When Vernon Viehe(MM Community manager) exited.. there were > promises from > MM..that MM would provide better support through other MM Folks... > *****Is this a JOKE?***** > Vernon did a much better job..than whoever is in that place now. > > This Thread Question was directed to MM..since there is no > DOCUMENTATION on > details of drivers and such.. NEVER Got an Answer.! > > CFMX Updater 2 Release Notes... > DB2-Specific Issues > An exception could be generated when connecting to DB2 AS/400 v4R5. > 15002962(ID). > > ***STILL DOING THE SAME THING with V4R5 and V5R1*** > > Is MM(Product-Team) going to provide the documentation > details.. or do we have > to wait another year.. for a reponse...? > > BTW.. This Thread is dating back early last Month. > > Joe > > > On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 07:20:57 -0800 Joe Eugene > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Phil/MM Product Team > > > > > All the drivers are from DataDirect/Merant > > > except for the mySQL driver. > > > > Are you sure about the above? What Java Type IV > > driver is provided with CFMX > > for DB2 UDB? > > This? > > > http://www.datadirect-technologies.com/products/jdbc/jdbcrelhi > ghlights.asp > > The above driver supports DB2 UDB for > > AS400(iSeries) for V5R4 and V5R1 OS > > Versions. I havent been able to configure this > > connection with CFMX..(got a > > Native JTOpen connection working) and i dont > > think AS400 DB2 UDB is > > supported.... > > Can you give some documentation on exactly what > > drivers CMFX > > uses(Author/Versions)? > > > > It would be very helpful to see some > > documentation on implementation of > > "CFQUERY" and how connection pooling works in > > CFMX. > > > > Thanks > > Joe > > > > > > > > On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 08:43:38 -0500 Phil Costa > > wrote: > > > > > Better late than never ;-) > > > > > > All the drivers are from DataDirect/Merant > > > except for the mySQL driver. > > > > > > I believe a third-party JDBC driver would be > > > managed just like one of the drivers included > > > with CFMX, but I have to verify that. > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Joe Eugene > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 11:01 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: Java in CF (CFMX) - MM Drivers > > > > > > > > > >Anybody from MM Product Team can explain > > this? > > > on November 24, 2002 > > > >5:24 PM > > > > > > Product Teams reply 2 weeks later on the > > > Thread!. Talked to Sean and figured out this > > > already. Anyways since you mentioned it, Are > > > all CFMX Native Drivers "DataDirect" > > > Drivers(Oracle,DB2 UDB). If you configure a > > > Type IV Native Datasource in CMFX... Does > > CFMX > > > manage connection pooling? Single > > Connection.. > > > Multiple Statements? How does this work? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Phil Costa > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:49 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: Java in CF (CFMX) - MM Drivers > > > > > > > > > It's throwing that error because you're > > trying > > > to access the JDBC drivers in an unlicensed > > > fashion. The DataDirect drivers are licensed > > > for use with ColdFusion, which includes > > support > > > for JSP as well as CFML, not the scenario > > > you're describing. > > > > > > Phil Costa > > > Sr. Product Manager, ColdFusion > > > Macromedia > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Joe Eugene > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 5:24 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: Java in CF (CFMX) - MM Drivers > > > > > > > > > I got this partially resolved... Sean helped > > > out.. Thanks Sean. It was a classpath > > problem. > > > However after i load the > > > drivers(macromedia.jdbc.MacromediaDriver) > > which > > > is in the "lib" directory of your > > > installation(eg. > > > "G:\CFusionMX\lib\macromedia_drivers.jar") > > and > > > give it the connection url.. Connection con = > > > > > > DriverManager.getConnection("jdbc:macromedia:sqlserver://SqlSe > rverName:1433" > > > ,"userid","Pwd"); > > > > > > I get an Exception.. > > > > > "macromedia.jdbc.MacromediaDriver$InvalidLicenseException: > > > An Enterprise license is needed to use the > > > Macromedia JDBC Drivers on the DB2, Oracle, > > > Sybase and Info rmix servers." > > > > > > I am running CFMX Enterprise > > > version(6,0,0,48097). I have the same > > > connection working fine in JSP Pages under > > > CFMX. Are CFMX Enterprise drivers protected > > > from usage in Java > > Applications(Console/Swing)? > > > Anybody from MM Product Team can explain > > this? > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Joe Eugene > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:11 PM > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: RE: Java in CF (CFMX) - MM Drivers > > > > > > > > > > > > I can use the CFMX MM DB drivers in a JSP > > > page..No problem. however.. > > > > i need to use it in a Java > > Application..tried > > > to load the Driver.. > > > > > > > > > Class.forName("macromedia.jdbc.MacromediaDriver") > > > > Keep getting ClassNotFound Error.. > > > > I put the macromedia_driver.jar in the > > class > > > path.. still not > > > > loading.. Do i need to import something? > > What > > > am i missing? > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > PS:Old Thread. > > > > I am just catching up on this Thread.. > > > > Isnt the idea to comply with J2EE > > > Architecture? Model-View-Controller > > > > model etc.. Why would some want to write > > > in-line Java..? Anyways... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:09:16 -0500 Phil > > Costa > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > The decision to disallow inline java code > > > was > > > > > definitely not a cut and dry one. One > > > reason > > > > > was definitely to enforce a cleaner > > > separation > > > > > of syntax; the other, which I hadn't > > > mentioned, > > > > > was to remove some additional complexity > > > from > > > > > the parsing/compiling process. Because of > > > the > > > > > differences between typing and syntax, > > > parsing > > > > > a page that had both Java and > > CFML/CFScript > > > > > would have been a bear. > > > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Jon Hall > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 2:37 AM > > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > > Subject: Re: Java in CF (CFMX) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, November 21, 2002, 11:54:58 PM, > > > you > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > MT> Jon Hall wrote: > > > > > >> The case for allowing inline Java is > > > simple, > > > > > CF developers can use > > > > > >> Java without having to know everything > > > about > > > > > Java. Methods and > > > > > >> classes are easy to get. Compiling, > > > > > classpath's, and understanding > > > > > >> the lengths Java goes to, to abstract > > > > > everything, etc. is not. > > > > > > > > > > MT> Knowing just a little about a > > language > > > as > > > > > deep/complex as Java can > > > > > MT> be "dangerous" in a number of ways... > > > > > > > > > > MT> It's very easy to run into errors in > > > java > > > > > if you don't understand > > > > > MT> how it all works (ex. trying to > > > instantiate > > > > > an interface). One of > > > > > MT> the overriding strengths of CF is > > that > > > it > > > > > offers a great deal of > > > > > MT> power in an easy to use/learn style. > > > This > > > > > sort of thing, IMO, goes > > > > > MT> against that strength. > > > > > > > > > > MT> Mixing CFML and Java can very quickly > > > lead > > > > > to code that is horribly > > > > > MT> organized and difficult to > > > follow/maintain. > > > > > Obviously, anal coders > > > > > MT> will keep things nice and neat, but > > > others > > > > > will be mashing CFML, > > > > > MT> CFScript, Java, and SQL together > > > > > haphazardly. > > > > > > > > > > MT> Then there's the compatibility > > thing... > > > > > Java lists != CF lists. > > > > > MT> Java arrays != CF arrays. Etc. > > Again, > > > > > this can lead to confusion > > > > > MT> and cause all kinds of errors. > > > > > > > > > > I say let the coders (and the pm's who > > have > > > a > > > > > clue ) who write the applications make > > the > > > > > decision on what works in their > > > application. > > > > > I'm not trying to be facetious, but be > > > brutally > > > > > honest, I couldn't care less that anyone > > > else > > > > > thinks my hypothetical hybrid Java/CF > > code > > > is > > > > > unorganized or difficult to maintain, as > > > long > > > > > as those that it matters to, like my boss > > > and > > > > > clients don't care either. So I don't see > > > how > > > > > the fear of some overwhelming horde of > > > > > organized code existing somewhere out > > > there, > > > > > just over the horizon, really is a valid > > > > > argument against allowing inline Java > > > within CF > > > > > templates. > > > > > > > > > > >> CFQuery is the perfect example here. > > If > > > CF > > > > > gives developers the power > > > > > >> to do whatever they want within > > cfquery > > > > > tags, then why not java > > > > > >> within cfjava tags? Seems's > > inconsistent > > > to > > > > > me. Especially since > > > > > >> cfquery probably the biggest strength > > of > > > the > > > > > CF language. > > > > > > > > > > MT> SQL and CFML serve 2 different > > > purposes, > > > > > database manipulation and > > > > > MT> application logic. Java and CFML > > serve > > > the > > > > > same purpose, > > > > > MT> application logic. > > > > > > > > > > That's not entirely true. TSQL and > > probably > > > > > PLSQL work fine within cfquery tags. > > > Terrible > > > > > as it may sound, if I want to loop over a > > > > > cfquery that manipulates a cursor I can. > > > > > > > > > > I'm not saying there are not valid > > reasons > > > for > > > > > disallowing inline Java, I'm just saying > > > that > > > > > limiting the flexibility of CF just > > because > > > of > > > > > the possibility that nasty code may come > > > into > > > > > existence is not a good enough reason in > > my > > > > > opinion, but it's the only one that's > > been > > > put > > > > > forward by both you and Phil. I also > > don't > > > want > > > > > to start yet another debate about what's > > > good > > > > > and bad for CF, but as you said earlier, > > I > > > am > > > > > curious as well. Though I suspect it's > > > similar > > > > > reasoning behind not allowing cfscript to > > > call > > > > > tags in the past (not that I ever got the > > > > > reasoning behind that either). > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > jon > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
