10 Gbps firewall.. sure... distributed firewalls.. multiples... There 
certainly are companies running such...

The point about it being an open network for innovation is a big deal 
considering it is indeed open and subject to all the tortures...  
Perhaps the firewall type ideas could be used defensively to insulate 
when things like this do occur...  A reactive measure...

I agree about the UDP on production being unnecessary.... Actually, a 
lot of networking should be cut and pure IP only I believe.... 

-paris


Paris Lundis
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:19:54 +0100
Subject: Re: SQL Worm

> Paris Lundis wrote:
> > A good summary Jochem would be for folks to tune the firewall and 
> > ensure permissions/allowable IP list...
> 
> Since when can you even buy a 10 Gbps firewall?
> 
> 
> > In your environment you point out the user base... 8000...
> agreeable... 
> > large base for things...
> > 
> > Tune the firewall and restrict traffic there ... allowing like port
> 80 
> > in and out disbaling all other services and ports, except those in
> a 
> > defined list of authrozied servers...
> 
> All 8000 systems are authorized servers. About 65525 of 65536 ports
> are 
> authorized ports. You can't firewall a production network where the 
> product is (supposed to be) innovation.
> 
> 
> I think we have had this discussion last week already, but firewalls
> are 
> not the answer to all problems. Sure, properly secured firewalls on 
> machines running MS SQL Server would have prevented this issue (at 
> least, nobody has convinced me that UDP should be allowed to a 
> production server at all). But there are allways other scenario's
> where 
> a firewall would not help. In the end, vigilance on all the aspects
> of 
> security is the only way to make sure problems like this worm don't 
> cause a total meltdown of the internet.
> 
> Jochem
> 
> 
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