I didn't mean to imply that it was insignificant (that is not up for me to
decide). But I think it does show why we launched the site, before any
issues with the browser were resolved.

As I stated in a previous thread, we are working with opera to resolve the
issue.

mike chambers

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Willy Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: New MM.com


> I hear you, Mike, and I'm sorry you're getting your lunch pissed on
> today.
>
> Know this: I'm a developer for a small college using ColdFusion MX,
> Flash MX, DWMX, and Homesite.  We've been a ColdFusion campus since
> version 3.  I *love* your products.  I *love* your support folks.  I
> would like to see Macromedia continue to do well.  I'm a loyal customer.
>
>
> Here's how I read your .04%:
>
> Macromedia's marketing info says the site gets a million customers a
> day.
>
> That article is here:
> http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mmwebsite/articles/devnet_experience.html
>
> four tenths of one percent of one million (1,000,000 * .004) = 4,000
> customers hitting your site per day using Opera.
>
> So, is this significant to you or not? Maybe it isn't.  I can see the
> corporate attitude being, "The amount of customers we have, those 4k can
> hang."  What do you think?  Is that the case?
>
> Willy
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 05:07PM >>>
> .4% of users who visit our site use Opera.
>
> Regardless, we are working with Opera to resolve the issue.
>
> mike chambers
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Willy Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: New MM.com
>
>
> > I appreciate that you guys are getting hammered here.  I should have
> > thought you'd have expected it.  I also hear you getting defensive,
> and
> > I can really understand that, too.  I've been there.
> >
> > That not withstanding, what you've essentially said here is this:
> > Whatever percentage the Opera market is, we're comfortable
> abandoning
> > them, or forcing them to launch a Microsoft product that they'd
> really
> > rather not.
> >
> > My guess is that your typical Opera user is a developer.  Is this
> > really an audience you're comfortable with orphaning?  For my part,
> when
> > I develop a site, I'm constantly testing it in several versions of
> > Explorer, Communicator and Opera.  Who QA-ed your new site, anyway?
> >
> > Willy
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 09:31AM >>>
> > One thing to keep in mind is that while Opera may have 10% of the
> > market
> > (does it?), that does not mean that 10% of people who visit the
> > Macromedia
> > site have it. It may be a much smaller percentage.
> >
> > mike chambers
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: New MM.com
> >
> >
> > > AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like
> > horses*it
> > > to me ;)
> > > The stupid flash just loops loading over and over.
> > > I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept
> then
> > i'm a
> > > little worried.
> > > If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the
> browser
> > market
> > > well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site
> > anymore
> > > unfortunately until they fix the problem.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
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