I hear you, Mike, and I'm sorry you're getting your lunch pissed on
today. 

Know this: I'm a developer for a small college using ColdFusion MX,
Flash MX, DWMX, and Homesite.  We've been a ColdFusion campus since
version 3.  I *love* your products.  I *love* your support folks.  I
would like to see Macromedia continue to do well.  I'm a loyal customer.
 

Here's how I read your .04%:

Macromedia's marketing info says the site gets a million customers a
day.

That article is here:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mmwebsite/articles/devnet_experience.html

four tenths of one percent of one million (1,000,000 * .004) = 4,000
customers hitting your site per day using Opera. 

So, is this significant to you or not? Maybe it isn't.  I can see the
corporate attitude being, "The amount of customers we have, those 4k can
hang."  What do you think?  Is that the case?

Willy

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 05:07PM >>>
.4% of users who visit our site use Opera.

Regardless, we are working with Opera to resolve the issue.

mike chambers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Willy Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: New MM.com


> I appreciate that you guys are getting hammered here.  I should have
> thought you'd have expected it.  I also hear you getting defensive,
and
> I can really understand that, too.  I've been there.
>
> That not withstanding, what you've essentially said here is this:
> Whatever percentage the Opera market is, we're comfortable
abandoning
> them, or forcing them to launch a Microsoft product that they'd
really
> rather not.
>
> My guess is that your typical Opera user is a developer.  Is this
> really an audience you're comfortable with orphaning?  For my part,
when
> I develop a site, I'm constantly testing it in several versions of
> Explorer, Communicator and Opera.  Who QA-ed your new site, anyway?
>
> Willy
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 09:31AM >>>
> One thing to keep in mind is that while Opera may have 10% of the
> market
> (does it?), that does not mean that 10% of people who visit the
> Macromedia
> site have it. It may be a much smaller percentage.
>
> mike chambers
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: New MM.com
>
>
> > AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like
> horses*it
> > to me ;)
> > The stupid flash just loops loading over and over.
> > I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept
then
> i'm a
> > little worried.
> > If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the
browser
> market
> > well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site
> anymore
> > unfortunately until they fix the problem.
> >
>
>
> 

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