Perhaps MM might take a clue from a long standing practice by Microsoft for
Registered users, and that is to send updater files via CD-ROM in snail mail.

This is not needed for small files and patches, but for updaters that are over,
say 5 MBytes in size.

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Douglas White
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joshua Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:34 AM
Subject: RE: CFMX Updater 3 Released


| We don't all have the luxury of that kind of bandwidth. I've got
| satellite internet - I get > 200kbps downloads, but my uploads are <
| 10kbps. I certainly don't have the time to wait while a 40MB file
| uploads over a 10kbps connection.
|
| Really now, with all of the marketing data you've been collecting about
| your user base does it really come as a shock that people want this file
| without jumping through hoops to get it? I realize it's important to
| collect marketing data and that's why you need to go through a login
| process to get the updater, but if you actually use that information you
| would know that not everyone has Flash installed on their server and
| that not everyone even has the option of installing Flash on their
| server.
|
| I've been a big defendant of the new site and your push to RIA, but you
| do have to have SOME consideration for Non-Flash users when it comes to
| software updates. In this case, it's more important that users get the
| updater quickly than it is for you to know who gets it.
|
| Put the file up someplace we can ALL get to it and then begin working on
| a way to track who's getting it without Flash. Don't make your community
| wait while you come up with another solution - that will only lead to
| folks helping each other out by posting the file for download somewhere
| else.
|
| Joshua Miller
| Head Programmer / IT Manager
| Garrison Enterprises Inc.
| www.garrisonenterprises.net
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| (704) 569-9044 ext. 254
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| -----Original Message-----
| From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:34 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: CFMX Updater 3 Released
|
|
| On Thursday, March 20, 2003, at 01:12 PM, Barney Boisvert wrote:
|
| > Not to be an ass, but if MM doesn't provide a means to get the updater
|
| > without Flash support (which isn't an option on GUI-less *nix
| > installations, for example), then you're pretty much limited to
| > illicit distribution or not
| > getting the updater.  Of those two, the former seems like a far more
| > reasonable choice.
|
| This is certainly an issue, and as I posted earlier, I have submitted
| the problem to the web team and they are aware of it.  However, it
| doesn't seem that difficult to work around.  I have ColdFusion running
| a couple Linux servers that do not have any type of graphical interface
| or browser installed, so I just downloaded the updater to my
| workstation and copied the updater to my servers.
|
| Christian
|
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