Delphi page producers are a pretty good alternative (plus ISAPI apps are quite speedy).
I'm not savvy with the Enhydra architecture, although it offers a different 
alternative again. (I've heard its good)

Jared.

Dave Watts wrote:

> > Really?  Not in my neck of the woods....  Most of the folks we
> > interview have a procedural programming background, and most have
> > used VB in the past.  Having them pickup VBScript for ASP is a
> > cakewalk compared to them figuring out the whole "shove your code
> > into the middle of perfectly good HTML" thing...
> >
> > We hire programmers, not monkies, so formal training is *very* seldom
> > necessary.  Our guys can learn new tricks fairly quickly...
>
> I'd guess that you're the exception, not the rule, based on my experience as
> an instructor. As far as preferring the ASP model versus the CF model for
> code, that's more of a personal preference than anything else - in either
> case, you're mixing HTML with server-side programming. The alternative, to
> me, is even worse, in which you have to output each line of HTML
> specifically within the body of your code, like you'd do in a Java servlet,
> for example.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
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