> -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Merrill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 8:09 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions > > Thanks Jim, comments below. > > Dave Merrill > > > > - What's an accurate, up to date source of info on html, css, and js > > > capabilities and quirks for a lot of different browsers and versions? > > > > The JavaScript and DHTML guides at MSDN.microsoft.com are pretty good > and > > inform you of which features are in which specs (but not how to > > code for the other browsers). > > I agree, they're very good, they've been my usual first stop for this kind > of info. However, they're completely IE-specific, which is part of how I > come to ask these questions.
They are IE specific - but the key is that they're VERY clear where they're IE specific. Basically nearly anything in those specs that claim the property or object as being part of the W3C spec can be used in FireFox. > > For example you might install Windows 2000 to a virtual PC. You > > then make a > > copy of that and install IE 5.5 then another copy and install IE 6.0. > Now > > you can run all of them as windows on your host machine for testing. > > Good idea. Kinda funny that the only way to have multiple versions of IE > installed is to have multiple versions of the entire OS. If this is my dev > laptop, I'd also need all my other dev tools and settings. Pain in the . No... although I might be missing something. The key is that you're Virtual PC is running as an application on your Dev laptop. Your personal settings and tools are only installed to the host OS, not each virtual PC. The nice things here is that your Virtual PC is then much closer to a "normal user" in that you can run it with default settings and such. You don't want to test using a machine configured by a developer (we tend to fiddle and change browser settings most people would never touch). > > > - Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines? > > > > Personally, no. I use Virtual PC for PC and Linux and trust to the > graces > > of friends for Macs (since I can't see spending the money and > > dedicating the space for one personally). > > That new $500 mac changes this a bit though, maybe. Not so much for me. That $500 dollar machine is really barebones: you need to add things (like a monitor, keyboard and such) and it still requires dedicated space (us apartment dwellers have space at a premium). That doesn't even consider software (even just the OS upgrades which are pretty common and pretty pricey). But of course you'd have to pay for that with an emulator anyway so it doesn't really count. It is a good deal, but when you can either a fully outfitted PC for the same price or an equivalent bare-bones PC for less than half it's still not very attractive (at least to me). Even then I'm still not sure if that entry-level machine has the oomph to run multiple instances of the OS (for complete testing I'd really like to run OS 9, OS X, OS X Panther, etc separately). But it still seems that for me to get a good Mac testbed set up at home it'll be at least $700-$1000 (depending on how much the OSes cost) even with the Mac-Mini. And, of course, I'd still have to find a place for it. ;^) PearPC (http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/) is promising for this, but is still really flakey. I'd really like to see something from IBM or Apple directly on this... Jim Davis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193237 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
