All the proliferation of free scripts in PHP does is contribute to it's reputation as being "cheap" and drive down the price that developers can ask. Don't you konw how many CF developers own their own businesses and no longer live with their mothers :)
-mk -----Original Message----- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 5:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced Well I can safely say that almost everything I have ever gone looking for doesn't exist in CF, but is a plenty in PHP/ASP. I went looking for Affiliate scripts for example. There are tons of good ones for everything except CF, for which I found 1, and it was not free. I can say the same for things like forums, portals, community apps. This really isn't anything that needs proving, it is right there for anyone to see. Feel free to go search for any of those things I mentioned and see what you come up with for CF. CF has some free tags and UDF's sure, but not much in the way of full apps, and the majority of the semi-decent stuff is not free anwyay. Russ -----Original Message----- From: Michael Bramwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 August 2005 02:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Studio 8 announced Between Macromedia live docs, HOF lists and a few other sites I think CF is fairly well covered. While it is sometimes helpful do you really need millions of free and mostly useless scripts, whether it be php,asp,js, or whatever. Michael B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ Michaels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 9:33 AM Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > Don't pick on cf developers. > Eveyone else is the same, why do you think PHP has such a big community. > Altho what does suck, is that no-one gives anything away for FREE in CF. > Thus why we have millions of free PHP/ASP scripts and like 2 free cf > scripts. > There is only 1 free cf forum I know of, and ALL cf forums free or not, are > crap compared to the PHP/ASP solutions. > > Russ > > -----Original Message----- > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 August 2005 00:44 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > > would you like it to come with your name etched in gold on the cd and the > box customized with your pic and have it hand delivered to your door and > only include the features you want in it. And if they did and you had to pay > more than a nickle for it you'd still bitch about it. > > It was funny the other night at our cfug we were talking about how frickin > cheap cfm developers are, whining and crying if they gotta spend more than a > buck for anything and its so true!!! Most of you are even too cheap to buy > one of Wills cfm shirts and show your support, I mean really, It's PATHETIC, > people be ashamed of yourselfs because this is what hurts our community. If > WIll made PHP or Flash or .crap shirts they'd be all bought up in a heart > beat. Lets be real you guys make good money but you act so broke, come > on!!!!!!!!! We figured in our our area (denver) that $45 an hour was fairly > low for cfm dev'r too make. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr > > I may whine about ms but at least I spent money on it and therefore have a > reason but this crap with you guys bitching about stuff and it not being > free is really lame...... > > " but now it costs too much money." > So you make multi-million dollar apps but can't spend a couple of bucks on > something that helps you make a living??? > Or you cant take 5 minutes to download the plugins you want? btw~ doesnt > rob have a package download for cfm? > Thats pathetic period!!! > > ~Dave the disruptor~ > "A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient > capital to form a corporation." > > ---------------------------------------- > From: "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:31 AM > To: CF-Talk <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com> > Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > > But does that zip contain a full IDE implementing the list I mentioned? > I haven't seen one yet. When someone stands up, and builds an installer > encapsulating this all you have a winner, but now it costs too much money. > > Micha Schopman > Project Manager > > Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax > 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- > Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de > interactie met uw doelgroep. > Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer > informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- > -----Original Message----- > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: dinsdag 9 augustus 2005 9:51 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > > Installer? What can simpler than downloading a zip - unzip it, copy it to a > folder and click on Eclipse.exe - no reg keys, not added bloat. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 August 2005 20:55 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > > The lack of a descent one in all installer is currently holding back > Eclipse. People don't have the time to go through the entire process, of > downloading Eclipse, downloading the Web toolkit, downloading the > prequisites of that toolkit, downloading CFEclipse, etc. > > If they managed to put this all into one package, so that you get easily > started with an Eclipse installation where you can edit > xml,xsl,javascript,(x)html,css,cfml,php without going to that proces. > And > maybe it is there already, and I just did not searched good enough ;) > > As far as DW 8 concerned. For me personally the real good feature is code > collapse, but I hope they didn't took the CFStudio/Homesite codebase for > this functionality, because everybody who used it in those old products, > knows that when you collapsed a large amount of code, scrolling the document > was a pain in the ass. So at least I hope that they did look at this > "feature". > > I like the enhanced compliance tests showed in the demo on the MM site, but > for some reason I hope for more. Like that they > - fixed the numerous issues involved with the treeview in DWMX > - crashes when searching through folders with find & replace (and they > occured on specific xml files) > - showing the directory path of a occurence within search results so that I > might now which one of the 1001 index.cfm's in the results belongs to which > project. > - step into, just like Eclipse has on folders > - enabling selection and printing of the reference inside DW > - fixing the lookup of selections on search > - split code view, like cfstudio had > - breakdown of cfc's in a project > > If they at least payed attention to the treeview they have a buyer, but I > hope they improve the support of the product. I don't understand why there > haven't been released more updaters for DWMX 2004. I hope they pay more > attention to existing customers :) > > Micha > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214716 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
