> Separating anything wasn't the question of this topic... it's 
> how to include something in 2400 pages easily (by the time you 
> started posting anyway)...

Again, if you read the entire thread carefully, you will see that I replied
to a specific question posed by Claude. His question was not the same as the
original poster's question, which I replied to separately. Claude's question
was "what is the value of separating presentation logic from application
logic?"

> and in this case it would be done easily with Application.cfm 
> (you've agreed) but separating milk from eggs or planting trees 
> or spooning with your doctor has nothing to do with anything CF 
> related which... btw.. is the language in question... not English. 
> You want to say something without actually saying it? Use pseudo 
> code, examples and experiences.

Thank you very much for your helpful advice on how to write. However, I
notice that you didn't write your answer in CF, but English. Personally, I
find similes and metaphors to be useful in explaining things. If you don't,
that's all well and good, but I'd prefer it if you didn't complain to me
about it. And again, if you read the thread, you will see that I did post
examples and experiences pertaining to separating presentation code from
generic application logic.

> > It is NOT all preferences and habits. Or at least, it shouldn't 
> > be.
> 
> Why shouldn't it be? Because it's not your preference?

Oh, I don't know, perhaps because a lot of people - probably quite a bit
smarter than the both of us - have gained valuable and useful experience
about what works and what doesn't?

> > If you don't think that's a worthy topic of discussion
> 
> You have to wait for me to say it before you are allowed to 
> insinuate that I said or thought it. ;-)

No, see, that's how conditional logic works. I can specify a condition,
which, if met, causes a specific response. As a programmer, you might find
that concept useful in the future. For example, assuming that the variable
"dumbAss" below can be cast as a Boolean:

<cfif Variables.dumbAss>
        <cfoutput>#Variables.snideRemark#</cfoutput>
</cfif>

Now, that's not saying dumbAss is true, but if it is, we can respond
appropriately.

> Of course, I may just be a little bitter since I started 
> reading a 60 post strong thread that started out OK, got weak, 
> then got better and then turned to shit... and just decided I 
> wanted to spruce up the ending a little... Maaaybeeee

I don't think you did a very good job. That's just my opinion, of course.
Perhaps less bitterness, and more attention to detail, will help the next
time you want to spruce something up.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/

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