On 4/19/06, Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Basically with Ruby it comes down to this (in my short investigation of > it....I > stopped because it is NOT the Holy Grail).... > > It does lots of stuff for you...right up until it needs to something different > then the default...then you are right back writing custom code to make your > "something different" work.
I've seen this comment more than once from CF developers and it's simply *not* true. Rails does an enormous amount automatically if you follow the conventions (one of it's explict design principles) but gives you total control of that behavior if you want to customize it: don't like plural table names? ActiveRecord::base.pluralize_table_names=false in environment.rb want to override a table name? class someTable < ActiveRecord::Base set_table_name "some_crazy_table_name" end and so on and so on. You've got to do a rails project before you really start to understand how much is built in > So IMHO unless you are writing VERY simple interfaces and data interactions, > you > might as well just write your code from scratch (or your own wonderful code > libraries etc). That's a pretty misleading assessment. Rails apps can be arbitrarily complex without any more limitations than CF except for a few edge cases like good CORBA integration (since we all write so many CORBA-oriented CF apps ;) > So no...RoR does not make coding magically simple, but it does make simple > coding magic ;-) Having built ColdFusion apps for years and doing my 2nd production Rails app (with several more in various stages of completion, including two CF->Rails ports) I'd say *ASSUMING YOU KNOW RUBY* that you can get more done in Rails than in CF for an equal amount of work. I'd say the same for Java, having done a handful of J2EE and web-based java apps. CF has a couple of specific places where is is currently far superior + Java integration (which in RoR requires web-service or similar integration until JRuby is working) + Flash integration (though the Alph project hooks into Ruby really nicely) + PDF/etc generation And one big plus -- CF works on Windows *far* better than Rails. Rails is a *pain* to configure with stability and performance on Windows. -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238167 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
