FlexBuilder comes packaged with Eclipse to run as a standalone app, but you
can also choose to install the plugin, if you are already using Eclipse for
CF/Java work, for instance.  Then you just change 'perspectives'.  You ought
to find some time to download Eclipse and start learning how to configure
it, etc.  It's really pretty slick and there is a lot of stuff out there for
it. I am a newbie myself, coming up to speed, using it for a couple
projects. CFEclipse is really coming along (nice job guys).



On 5/5/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Jeff, for the info and the updates!
>
> It's good to know that I won't have to sacrifice
> two legs and an arm to get into Flex...just an arm. :o)
>
> When you say that Flex Builder is built on top of Eclipse,
> do you mean Eclipse will be needed separately, or is it
> just the coding and style that is similar to Eclipse?
>
> And I think you're right, although it's a shame, that Flex
> will have to be relegated to the "backroom" of app development
> and not be used for the "showrooom" until search engine spider
> compatibility can somehow be addressed.  It would be a shame
> to use such a powerful tool in such a limited roll.
>
> Rick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Fleitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:06 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer
>
>
> The info you are looking at regarding Flex pricing appears to be for
> the 1.5version.  Unless you buy into Flex Data Services, Flex 2 is
> essentially
> 'free'. Adobe is releasing the SDK for free, which means that you could
> build Flex apps with notepad if you were daring enough. FlexBuilder, which
> is built on top of Eclipse, will  cost somewhere under $1000 ($999
> probably
> ;).  The apps you build (swfs) can be distributed royalty free, kinda like
> deploying a Visual Basic 6/FoxPro app. If you need advanced data services
> then you buy FDS.  It appears that CFMX folks are going to have a distinct
> advantage with the data tier, as least intially.
>
> I think if you are going to develop Flex apps for a living then
> FlexBuilder
> is a must. Other wise, you can use another editor. I use PrimalScript
> routinely, and they will be providing full support for Flex2/AS3.
>
> I see Flex more as a way to build backend systems that would traditionally
> mirror the functionality of a tradtional client/server system. At least
> that
> is how I would use it.  Administrative backends, private subscription
> areas,
> etc, places where the search engine is not going to tread anyway.
>
>
> On 5/5/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > My biggest concern with FLEX would be two-fold:
> >
> > 1)  Cost of setting up the environment, including the
> >      cost of FLEX server and FLEX Builder (which, incidentally,
> >      isn't spelled out at all on the Adobe site...it just says
> >      contact us.  Why can't they just post the price?!?!...)
> >      From what I was able to "google"...about $12,000+ ?!?!
> >
> > 2)  Search Engine Marketing using Flash...most of my clients
> >      have realized a great site does nothing for them if it can't
> >      rank highly in the search engines.  Unless things have changed,
> >      Flash can't be read by search engine spiders, and therefore,
> >      causes sites to rank poorly or not at all.
> >
> >      Until spidering by search engines is solved, all-flash user
> >      interfaces are totally unacceptable for sites, not matter how
> >      "Rich" the interactivity...
> >
> > Thoughts on this, anyone?
> >
> > Rick
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:51 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer
> >
> >
> > OpenLaszlo has an IDE for visual editing.  It looks interesting, haven't
> > played with it much.  Flex has a well integrated visual editor as well.
> >
> > They're both sorta left of the HTML experience though...
> >
> > I'm guessing VWD stands for Visual Web Design, and thus this
> > comment.
> > :)enny
> >
> > On 5/4/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd like to be able to use VWD to develop pages visually,
> > > but not use the components...I can code the formfields,
> > > etc., manually.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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