+1 for the quickdocs, I liked that too.
As for the rest, Ferg, you are probably better off with a tool like
DW or (maybe) HS/CFStud.
Working sets ROCK, the snippets are real powerful, somehow
I think better than HS, but I don't know for sure.
Viewing logs is probably more for people who develop local and
upload somewhere else, but it's real handy, if you do that.
I don't think CFE needs converts, if you ask me. There's plenty
to do already, and more people with the wrong mindset won't
help the flow of chi, or whatnot.
Mostly these[1] are attempts at "heads up" to the CF users out
there, if you ask me. 'Specially for "power CFers".
The mindset is just plain different from HS, DW, CFStu. tho,
and I'd hate to see people with the wrong idea get involved.
ICFE is currently aimed more at coders than "designers", if'n'
you're a WYSIWYG designer, stick with DW/whatnot.
And CFE is has some rough edges, which is why people
with the commercial mindset worry me. CFE coders don't
make money off of selling CFE. Chocolate or beer goes
further than complaints to management, or whatever.
[1]the posts about how cool CFE is. It's not better, just different,
and the way of the future (but that's besides the point ;).
:denster
On 6/5/06, Ken Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 1. OK, I don't personally find this particularly useful, but cool. I
> have always wondered why HS color codes sql in a .sql file, but not in a
> ..cfm file. I mean, it colors js css in cfm files.
> 2. Very cool indeed. I like that quite a lot.
> 3. Sounds cool - that might be nice.
> 4. Don't think I'd find that very useful.
> 5. Doesn't everyone keep test.cfm in the dev root for this anyway?
> 6. HS has these as well and I think the HS code templates are at least
> as good as CFE's snippets.
> 7. Neat?
> 8. This is one thing I really do like in CFE - this is really great.
> 9. Cool.
> 10. Once again, cool, but I don't think I really care too much.
>
> As for help, I think I actually like the CFE livedocs access better the
> way it is now. I can't remember the last time I used the built-in help
> files even though the ld's are slow on a scale that's almost geologic.
>
> --Ferg
>
>
> Munson, Jacob wrote:
> >> Actually, and I'm not being a smartass when I say this, I'd very much
> >> like for you to tell me some of the features CFE has over HS that are
> >> worthwhile.
> >>
> >
> > I haven't used HS for quite a while, so correct me if any of these are
> > there as well. But Here are a few things I like about CFE, besides what
> > I've already mentioned.
> >
> > 1. SQL code highlighting
> > 2. Todo list--Just add <---! Todo:{your todo title} ---> anywhere in
> > your code and you get a new todo item in the todo view. If you click
> > this item later from the todo panel it will open up the correct file and
> > drop you down to the correct spot on the page.
> > 3. Version control--Eclipse has basic version control built-in. Do you
> > need to go back after a few hours of coding? No problem, just find the
> > correct version from the history and restore it
> > 4. Working sets--group similar files into a set for later use, which
> > makes it easier to interface with them later (all other files are
> > hidden)
> > 5. Scratch pad--if you need to quickly test some code, hit F11 (or
> > whatever you map it to) which loads a cfm file, then view the results in
> > the internal browser
> > 6. Snippets--You can have complex code snippets at your fingertips,
> > just hit a shortcut and it will drop the code in. It will even ask you
> > for parameters (Ex. a query name)
> > 7. There is a plugin that lets you view the CF logs right from the CFE
> > IDE
> > 8. There is an Outline and a Methods view that gives you quick easy
> > access to your document structure, where you can click and jump to the
> > right section
> > 9. It's open source--community driven, rapid support and quick
> > releases, and it costs $0
> > 10. Adobe now supports CFEclipse as the standard CFML editor for coders
> > (not designers). In fact, did you know that Sean Cornfield is the
> > project manager for CFE?
> >
> > Again, if you know that HS does any of the above, feel free to correct
> > me. I know it does snippets, but I'm not sure if they are as powerful
> > as CFE.
> >
> > Also, someone mentioned that HS has inline documentation, and Adobe is
> > putting this into CFE soon (Actually I think it's going to come from
> > Flex, but it's supposed to cover CF).
> >
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