As far as me personally, if I didnt ask your company specifically to send me
email, i consider it spam and report it to upstream providers. <shrug/>

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Brian bouldernet spake thusly:
> Only if you opted never to receive a mailing from our Company is that law
> applicable. ... We get our names from Internet related companies that have
> strict privacy policies that only give us names of those who are internet
> development related and want other information... FYI all outbound emails
> have a opt out completely link and we send that through XML to the partner
> who gave it to us... That way 2 birds with one stone... The business we have
> built is the prism of incorporation to individuals who want to focus on
> their own technologies. Not learning and keeping up with every type of
> technology. This conclusively makes each persons experience rise in worth.
> The purpose of the Original posting was to open valid conversation
> concerning opt in procedures... Is preferences enough? I think that no
> matter what solution the FTC and the Senate decides, it will be one of
> solidarity... But to be clear if it happened continually to a recipient
> who's ISP resides in CA; the fee is only $50.
> 
> http://seclab.cs.ucdavis.edu/~zerkle/ab1629/
> 
> -brian
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Toon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:33 PM
> Subject: RE: Developer Directory?
> 
> 
> > So you're building a business off of this list? Great. Go ahead and
> include
> > me, but be aware that according to California law I can and will charge
> you
> > $500 per email. :P
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian bouldernet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:00 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Developer Directory?
> >
> >
> > All great things are realized great until the "flack" is at it's worst....
> > Most Recently.
> > Napster, NetAppliance, WAP, Cicso, NDS..
> >
> >
> > We'll see guys... I promise no spam... Our group came from a email
> marketing
> > company we sold out to double click. optinemail.com...
> >
> > We inatied the AOL hell thread because of the way AOL reparses
> doublequoted
> > links in all email so they have exclusive linking in emails.
> >
> > Our goal. To be directory for other developers doing there own thing to
> > focus on their expertise.. Cold Fusion, Spectra whatever. The lets say a
> > flash developer need function.... There you go....
> >
> > Later,
> > Talk to you later...
> > -brian
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: Developer Directory?
> >
> >
> > > I think there's one active already. I've got one in beta at FA but it
> > isn't
> > > up yet.
> > > Personally, I feel that the approach your taking is not the best as many
> > > feel like they're being dragged into something they didn't want to be
> part
> > > of. Posting a request to a public place and saying for people to come
> > visit
> > > is one thing, but scanning their email addresses and then emailing them
> > > directly to do so doesn't feel right. Someone else did something very
> > > similar and got a LOT of flack for it.
> > >
> > >
> > > > We've created a directory of about 1200 developers from talk graoups,
> > > > confrences, and what not, does anyone see any major issues emailing
> > > everyone
> > > > to ask to modify a profile we have setup and make live on a site that
> > > rates
> > > > each one based on customer satisifaction and developer strengths like
> > > > Spectra, CF, Database skills. All on a opt in procedure currently.
> > > >
> > > > Are there any existing directories?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > >
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