Yeah, the agencies do fluff CV up a little.. We had a few "advanced" contractors who didn't even know whan an array or structure was.
"This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -----Original Message----- From: Snake To: CF-Talk Sent: Sun Dec 17 12:42:51 2006 Subject: RE: Certification If you email me offline I'll send you a copy. Russ -----Original Message----- From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ASI-AIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 December 2006 12:04 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Certification Russ, You want to share that test? We've had many times where we needed to hire a contractor and when they got here even though they interviewed well and had good cf resumes, the didn't know the even the simple things. It seems a lot of "temp agencies" (for lack of a better term) coach their contractors on how to bs their way in. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 6:00 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Certification I have an online test I give candidates that has real world coding questions, like 1. write a simple web service 2. write some SQL that does an inner join between the following tables 3. what is the error in the following code And I can say that I have never once had someone who is certified get a good score. The best scores I have had were from people who were not certified, and were generally self taught and often didn't have a great deal of prior experience. Although to be fair, some employers do still put some merit on it, I do see jobs asking for it now and then. Its cheap enough to get certified, and it wont do you any harm, so you may as well do it. But don't kid yourself into thinking your chances of getting a great job with a higher salary will drastically improve having the cert or you may be disapointed. Eventually companies do figure out that it makes no difference if someone has a cert, it generally doesn't make them any better then someone who doesn't have it and doesn't help their interview process either, so I would imagine they only ask for certs the first time they are interviewing and don't know better. Russ -----Original Message----- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 December 2006 07:38 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Certification Not really, as the fact they are worthless (not useless) is no doubt the reason they do not take them. In the professional world whether you are ColdFusion certified or not means nada - certainly from what I have seen in the UK. I mean, isn't it mostly multiple choice still?! The Brainbench is good as well a Snake noted. Perhaps better. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -----Original Message----- From: Larry Lyons To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Dec 16 19:40:54 2006 Subject: Re: Certification >Agreed, the certs are pretty much worthless in the real world. > > > This topic come up on a regular basis, almost once every 2 or 3 months. Ever notice that generally those who say the CFMX certification is useless are those who boast that they don't have it? just a thought. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264259 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
