> I'm not so sure I agree that it does benefit the user experience, Perhaps
> for some of the more complex validations, but generally when I click the
> 'submit' button and I get a horrible windows style 'BEEEEP!!!' and a 
> notice
> window that I've missed out my name I find it to be a little offensive 
> more
> than helpful.

There are better options that 'BEEEEP!!!' :-)
Something like this is, in my opinion, does benefit the user experience:
http://www.massimocorner.com/validator/samples/custom_error.htm

Of course, it's just a matter of opinions.



> With the server side validation you can have it pass the user back to the
> form with subtle highlights and suggestions as to where they missed a few
> things, far more pleasant, far more informative.

See above, you can do the same client-side, without reloading the page.



> I've never really seen client side validation to be beneficial as it takes
> all the additional time to code and test,

It's, again, a matter of opinions. I developed a dedicated library just for 
that. I write the code just once and it implements validation both on the 
client and server-side. The client-side library is available for download, 
the server-side is not (not yet at least)



> and then you have to consider that
> over 20% or browsers have JS disabled and wouldn't be able to take 
> advantage
> anyway, so you're probably going to kiss good bye to the accessibility of
> your site.

20%??? Come on, even the most anti-JS zealots will never agree on this 
number :-)))

BTW Any serious stat that consider the percentage of JS disabled should 
exclude search engine robots, I haven't seen one that does.



> so you're probably going to kiss good bye to the accessibility of
> your site.

Again, on public facing websites I use both.



> Server side is accessible, quick and easy to maintain and develop, and is
> totally secure as its not reliant on the client to support it, it serves 
> all
> purposes, I've always seen JavaScript validation to be solving a problem
> that doesn't exist.

We just disagree on this. It's fine for me.

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