> Are you doing any real load testing? No... just basing my assumptions on the fact that my client's sites only get probably 300-400 hits per day altogether. It's sad, but I can get them to utilize their sites well.
Most of the traffic on the server will probably come in the form of CMS usage built into the sites for my clients. I see what you're saying below about the simplicity of client-side validation instead of a hybrid system. And the slow-downs I may experience could well change my mind about the hybrid. But I've *always* performed *only* server-side, CF validation up to this point, after submitted an entire form, and the feedback from CF is virtually instantaneous. I'm sure it's slower that pure JS, client-side... but if it's not so significantly slower to bother the user, then I don't see a problem. And it seems as if you're comparing apples to oranges when looking at how much code it takes to create client-side only validation, versus a hybrid system. You've got to account for the CF server-side coding, as well. And creating a system with both client-side and server-side validation that sends validation messages back to a user seems much more complicated. With a hybrid system, I only have one system to maintain, not two... And, as I said, at *this* point, stress on the server is not an issue... Rick -----Original Message----- From: Dan G. Switzer, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Client-side validation or Server-side Validation? Rick, >> You're adding a lot of complexity > >Less complexity as I see it... Trust me, you're adding more. What happens if the AJAX request never returns? What are you going to do? HTTP requests are not perfect and they do from time to time fail. If you're validating during an onblur event--which I know at one time you were--and a user starts tabbing through the fields, and HTTP request be triggered off for each blur event. This is a lot of undo traffic. It might work just dandy when you're test a single form and you're the only person using it, but if you get any kind of traffic to your site--it's going to cause issues. The bottom line is, I had a choice between no client-side validation and using AJAX-style validation, I'd clearly go w/no client-side validation. Fortunately, there are so many tools out there that basically do all the work for you. >> lot of load to your server that's unnecessary > >Doesn't seem to have any issue handling it so far. >(Of course that could change if I pursue this to a greater degree.) >But like I've stated before, *all* validation I've performed up to this >point has been by using CF. Never used client-side validation before. Are you doing any real load testing? Running something locally w/no load is quite different that in most real world use cases. >> Using Joern's jQuery Form validation, you should be able to apply basic >> validation to your form in minutes. > >Been there, done that. But then you have to add validation for the same >data >on the server-side. I don't see that as any more beneficial to the server. Because the client does have to talk to the server for each and every error. That's a lot less http requests to your site. Also, the user doesn't have to wait for the server to respond--the messages will appear instantly. I mean there's not a lot of coding involved in: $(document).ready({ $("#yourForm").validate({ rules:{ name: {required: true}, email: {required: true, email: true} } }); }); I mean I just validate a form w/all client-side validation and made sure that the "name" field and "email" field are both required and that the e-mail field has to be an valid e-mail address. I'd put money on it that it took you a lot more time to try and get your AJAX-style client-side validation working correctly. I only needed to write those 8 lines of code. My code doesn't require any round tripping to the server either. This isn't rocket science and it isn't hard. You're actually making it much more difficult to solve than it is. -Dan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:275490 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
