With all due respect Michael I think you are speaking out of turn here. How would you (in Atlanta) have any idea what I (near Toronto) have been doing to encourage people to learn CF? On this list I offer as much help as I have time or advice for. Locally I've tried since the 90's to encourage the spread of CF. I don't remember ever replying in a discouraging manner on cf-talk to a n00b. In fact my only beef over the past 13+ years has been with regards to a lack of marketing for CF because I love it so. In fact, I've even reached out to you personally from "cfer to cfer" in an effort to save you some embarrassment and help preserve your career integrity. I would call that giving back.
Methinks thou doth protest too much. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Michael Firth <mfsqlser...@gmail.com>wrote: > > Really? I don't exactly see any of you encouraging people to learn the > language. Instead you berate them with your very arrogance and in fact does > more damage than help. Also, my posts have nothing to do with this, even > though a few of these very same posters have used their professional emails > to attack me. Not exactly setting an example are you? > > > On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Michael Grant wrote: > > > > > Oh come now Michael. That's not the least bit fair. Most of us "experts" > are > > extremely helpful. In fact I'd say pound for pound we're some of the most > > helpful. True Andrew was a little off the cuff, but I think he's right in > > his jaded comments. Five taggers really haven't done much for the > > credibility of our chosen language, so it's fairly understandable why he > > might feel entitled to a few pot shots. > > > > It's clear from this, and your delluge of cf-jobs posts, that you've had > a > > poor experience with "CF experts." But don't let your own personal axe > > grinding taint your opinion of the community as a whole. We're a pretty > good > > lot. > > > > (Yeah, I said 'taint.' It made laugh too.) > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Michael Firth <mfsqlser...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > >> > >> Agreed. I can't believe how many of these so called "experts" are on > here > >> claiming to be helping people, but they are probably themselves the most > >> worthless coders you will ever find. You know sometimes one has to be > >> humble to see the light. > >> > >> > >> On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:48 PM, John M Bliss wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Yes. My point: surely noobs ask noob-y questions on all web app dev > lang > >>> boards since the beginning of web app dev lang boards. Regardless of > >>> quantity "my web app dev lang is dying" FUD. > >>> > >>> We'll be judged by how we treat our noobs. :-) > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Scott <andr...@andyscott.id.au > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he? > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Andrew Scott > >>>> http://www.andyscott.id.au/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:41 AM > >>>>> To: cf-talk > >>>>> Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ...because noobs aren't yet "find-and-replace ninjas?" Doubt it. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Scott > >>>>> <andr...@andyscott.id.au>wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Andrew Scott > >>>>>> http://www.andyscott.id.au/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~| > >>>>> Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! > >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- > >>>>> Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion > >>>>> Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- > >>>>> talk/message.cfm/messageid:341204 > >>>>> Subscription: > >> http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm > >>>>> Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- > >>>>> talk/unsubscribe.cfm > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341243 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
