Charlie,

I'd love to have a productive discussion on this subject. And yes, I have
opinions on this one, I've shared them before and am happy to do so again.
And no, as much as I admire Adam's passion for ColdFusion (it's why I nudged
him into the role), I don't fully agree with his take on things. But
regardless, I don't think this thread can be steered anywhere. When
conversations denigrate to emotional rants and accusations and
unsubstantiated sweeping generalizations, that's when I back away.

--- Ben


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:28 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference?


Rather than ignore it... is it worth trying to steer in a more productive
direction?  Can it be a productive discussion?

I've gone on record before as saying I don't think the existence of the
alternate engines spells the doom of Adobe ColdFusion.  I may be wrong, but
lord I hope not.  Adobe ColdFusion has been -very- good to me over the past
15 years, not just professionally, but personally.
Many of the people that I consider my best friends are friends that I've
made in the CF community.  So I've got both a personal and professional
interest in this, and it's a subject that I care about quite a bit.

If it can't be done here... so be it.  Just seems that we have
representation from all sides, and nobody seems to be too shy about sharing
how they feel.  All we need to do is steer the discussion in a direction
where it's more productive and constructive.  Assuming that direction...
y'know... exists.

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Ben Forta <b...@forta.com> wrote:
>
> Good point, I guess I blocked those from my memory.
>
> Oh well, I guess I'll just have to ignore this pointless banter up for 
> a few more days before the thread makes it to the CF-Talk Rogues Gallery.
>
> --- Ben
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 8:58 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference?
>
>
>> I officially nominate this thread as the least productive on cf-talk
ever.
>
> I'm sorry, Ben, but this one isn't even close. Are you forgetting all 
> the "why isn't CF/CFB free" threads? Or the "is CF dying" threads?
> This one will need at least twenty more replies before it's even in 
> the same category.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA 
> Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized 
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
>
>
> 



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