No one has the right to be a hard-ass, I don't care how much they've helped. That kind of attitude towards people only convinces passive participants from becoming active ones...especially beginners. Hard-ass responses on lists will contribute faster to the death of a programming language faster than poor marketing.
Not even Jobs had the right to be a hard-ass. He just couldn't find a way to mature sufficiently to find a way to lead towards his vision without destroying people along the way. But he, and others, like it that way because it's easier than being discerning. And Dave, and others like him... if you notice a question that requires empathy, why not just avoid answering it in the future. That's the best response you could give in those situations. If you're not going to help, just stay quiet. Just as you can answer in any way you like, those can also post any perspective they like, even "CF is dead!" (or dying, or whatever.) You guys make such a mountain out of a mole hill. Grow up... -----Original Message----- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 5:37 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices its hard to show empathy when people are rude and insult you simply because they don't like the answer or the fact that you don't agree with them. These people should try getting married then they will quickly learn that sometimes oyu must bite the bullet and admit your wrong even if you think your right :-) I think Dave has earned the right to be a hard-ass occasionally given the amount of help he gives others on here. On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Rick Faircloth <r...@whitestonemedia.com> wrote: > > "The 'correct' answer is the one you get"... wrong. > > It's almost never the one you get, whether technically > or psychologically. > > It's easy just to be a hard-ass all the time. I know from > personal experience. It's more difficult to show empathy > when it's needed, rather than try to rebut someone's > personal perspective, which cannot usually be proven wrong. > > People who mature learn to tell the difference > and act appropriately. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:06 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices > > >> True, but I see almost no empathy when people are expressing broader issue > concerns rather than >> issues of a technical nature. Therein lies the clue to the correct > response. > > You want empathy? Go to a shrink or talk to your bartender. > > On a free mailing list, the "correct" response is the one you get, not > the one you want. And these "broader issue concerns" typically don't > have any positive resolution, have been brought up countless times, > etc, etc. Saying "CF is dying" on a CF technical list isn't really an > appropriate statement for the list. And of course, it always turns out > that CF is dying because you don't like what Adobe is doing with it, > which is beyond the control of everyone on the list - whether you > agree with it or not. You know, I think it would actually be OK if > someone asked how to help CF, but that's never what these "concerns" > are about. It's all about your dislike for Adobe's marketing plan, or > pricing, or whatever. Well, this is not the place for that. > >> Sometimes the technician, sometimes the counselor. > > No one pays me to be a counselor. On here, no one pays me to be a > technician either, so I reserve the right to answer questions as I see > fit. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > http://training.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348685 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
