And, Russ, I guess you're talking about MS Office Exchange Web App? If so, that would be $4.00 per user per month.
That would cost me about $400 per month. Whew! -----Original Message----- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:30 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Large amounts of CF email I would still recommend sendgrid if the emails your clients send are important and you want tracking and reporting and bounce processing to make sure the mails reach their recipients. You also need to consider spam blacklists,.do you regularly check them to make sure your not listed? Do you want all the hassle of dealing with that with your own smtp server? If none of this matters to you and you ate happy to run your own smtp server them smartermail free edition or hmailserver will do the job. Also look at phplist as a mailing list manager. As for hosting incoming mail, I would suggest using google apps or office365, running your own mailserver can be a lot of work and.does require intimate knowledge of dns, spf, spam, back scatter, dnsbl, loop backs, spoofing, etc to do it properly, and google apps and office365 are better than anything you can offer anyway, with bells on. If you do decide to do it yourself then I suggest a separate server for mail, unless your only doing smtp then what you have is fine for that qty of mail. Remember the more services you put on same server the more you create a single point of failure that will take everything down in one go. You could certainly take dns out of the equation, dns comes free with all domain registrars, the main benefit to run your own dns is if you allow your clients to manage it via a hosting control panel if you manage dns manually then you.you can do the same via your registrar, or use a service like nettica. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 11, 2013 7:45 PM, "Michael Muller" <mich...@mullertech.com> wrote: > > Hey all, > > Ok, so I'm all set on the question of SPF etc. Here's another one. > > I am taking on a client who has an existing CF application. It's one of > those 30%-off coupon things. They have a dedicated server right now that > holds CF/SQL/SmarterMail all on one box. They send out a little over > 100,000 emails a month. > > My existing setup is two cloud-based servers at Enterhost: CF/DNS on one, > and SQL/SmarterMail/DNS on the other. I do not want to add the extra email > burden to my system. I already send out about 50,000 emails a month from > about 170 websites, not including the POP personal / business emails of 75 > of those clients. > > The current concept is for me to get another server specifically for their > email delivery, and to move their app to my CF machine and their database > to my SQL machine. With the extra email-only server I get SmarterMail, > though I'm not sure that's the best tool for delivering large amounts of > email from CF. > > I saw that Russ Michaels mentioned sendgrid.net in a post a couple days > ago about CFMAIL dropping some emails. This client knows that their needs > are going to grow beyond the 300,000 ($200/mo) limit in a short amount of > time, and so that will turn into an expensive solution eventually. > > So, if I stick with the new cloud server just for this one client's email > delivery... am I setting this up right? > > 1. Their app on my CF server with hard-coded SERVER (see 3. below) in all > CFMAIL tags > 2. Their DB on my SQL server > 3. Their own SM server (see 1. above) > > Is there a better email delivery option from CF, and if so how would you > integrate the two onto the on box so the customer can also get their own > email at their domain? I'm curious for my own needs as well. > > Is there a better way to set up the boxes? > > I know this sounds like fundamental stuff, but I'd love any opinions > people may want to volunteer (including "what are you crazy?!"). > > Thanks, > > MM > > > > > Michael Muller -- (413) 320-5336 > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > > ** Powered by ROCKETFUSION ** > > Information is not knowledge > Knowledge is not wisdom > > Eschew Obfuscation > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355378 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm