Rick,

I guess you did not read my reply fully, it seems you got to the gpogle
apps bit and just lost interest. It was one suggestion only, I did not say
that was the only solution.

Regards
Russ Michaels
www.michaels.me.uk
www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
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On Apr 11, 2013 9:03 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <r...@whitestonemedia.com> wrote:

>
> And, Russ, I guess you're talking about MS Office Exchange Web App?
> If so, that would be $4.00 per user per month.
>
> That would cost me about $400 per month. Whew!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:30 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Large amounts of CF email
>
>
> I would still recommend sendgrid if the emails your clients send are
> important and you want tracking and reporting and bounce processing to make
> sure the mails reach their recipients.
> You also need to consider spam blacklists,.do you regularly check them to
> make sure your not listed? Do you want all the hassle of dealing with that
> with your own smtp server?
> If none of this matters to you and you ate happy to run your own smtp
> server them smartermail free edition or hmailserver will do the job. Also
> look at phplist as a mailing list manager.
> As for hosting incoming mail, I would suggest using google apps or
> office365, running your own mailserver can be a lot of work and.does
> require intimate knowledge of dns, spf, spam, back scatter, dnsbl, loop
> backs, spoofing, etc to do it properly, and google apps and office365 are
> better than anything you can offer anyway, with bells on.
> If you do decide to do it yourself then I suggest a separate server for
> mail, unless your only doing smtp then what you have is fine for that qty
> of mail.
> Remember the more services you put on same server the more you create a
> single point of failure that will take everything down in one go.
> You could certainly take dns out of the equation, dns comes free with all
> domain registrars, the main benefit to run your own dns is if you allow
> your clients to manage it via a hosting control panel  if you manage dns
> manually then you.you can do the same via your registrar, or use a service
> like nettica.
>
> Regards
> Russ Michaels
> www.michaels.me.uk
> www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
> www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
> On Apr 11, 2013 7:45 PM, "Michael Muller" <mich...@mullertech.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Ok, so I'm all set on the question of SPF etc. Here's another one.
> >
> > I am taking on a client who has an existing CF application. It's one of
> > those 30%-off coupon things. They have a dedicated server right now that
> > holds CF/SQL/SmarterMail all on one box. They send out a little over
> > 100,000 emails a month.
> >
> > My existing setup is two cloud-based servers at Enterhost:  CF/DNS on
> one,
> > and SQL/SmarterMail/DNS on the other. I do not want to add the extra
> email
> > burden to my system. I already send out about 50,000 emails a month from
> > about 170 websites, not including the POP personal / business emails of
> 75
> > of those clients.
> >
> > The current concept is for me to get another server specifically for
> their
> > email delivery, and to move their app to my CF machine and their database
> > to my SQL machine.  With the extra email-only server I get SmarterMail,
> > though I'm not sure that's the best tool for delivering large amounts of
> > email from CF.
> >
> > I saw that Russ Michaels mentioned sendgrid.net in a post a couple days
> > ago about CFMAIL dropping some emails. This client knows that their needs
> > are going to grow beyond the 300,000 ($200/mo) limit in a short amount of
> > time, and so that will turn into an expensive solution eventually.
> >
> > So, if I stick with the new cloud server just for this one client's email
> > delivery... am I setting this up right?
> >
> > 1. Their app on my CF server with hard-coded SERVER (see 3. below) in all
> > CFMAIL tags
> > 2. Their DB on my SQL server
> > 3. Their own SM server (see 1. above)
> >
> > Is there a better email delivery option from CF, and if so how would you
> > integrate the two onto the on box so the customer can also get their own
> > email at their domain? I'm curious for my own needs as well.
> >
> > Is there a better way to set up the boxes?
> >
> > I know this sounds like fundamental stuff, but I'd love any opinions
> > people may want to volunteer (including "what are you crazy?!").
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > MM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael Muller -- (413) 320-5336
> > http://MontagueWebWorks.com
> >
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