Andrew,

Would setting the "spoolenable" attribute of cfmail to "no" possibly help
the issue? I have no idea if CF utilizes existing connections when not
using it's spool, but it is worth a try.


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Andrew Scott <andr...@andyscott.id.au>wrote:

>
> I can't reproduce locally, as this is an Enterprise only feature in the
> admin. I know this is not hosteks fault, I just need it sorted. Hostek have
> already stated the below response. The change suggested below, actually
> does fix this at least it has been working fine for over 8 months, till
> recently when the mail just keeps stopping every two days. And then I
> started seeing other web applications emails in my sent folder.
>
> Response from Hostek.
>
> *We have identified the cause of the issue.  The setting 'Maintain
> connection to mail server' in the 'Mail' section of the CFAdmin is what is
> causing this.  If multiple sites on the server are using the same SMTP
> server, such as 'smtp.gmail.com', this setting causes ColdFusion to re-use
> that connection until it completes sending emails to that server that are
> currently in the queue.  So, if both sites send an e-mail with the same
> 10-15 second period, it re-used the first site's authentication credentials
> since it did not re-establish the connection.
>
> This is not an issue for sites using the default cfmail settings since the
> local smtp service does not use username/password credentials, and it
> improves performance for mail sent locally when there is a lot of mail
> being sent.  However, for now, I have disabled the 'Maintain connection to
> mail server' option to prevent the issue when using external mail servers.
>  We will submit a bug report to Adobe suggesting that they treat CFMail
> tags with different authentication credentials as if they were sending to
> different servers (I.E. only use the same connection if the same
> username/password are specified).
> *
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Russ Michaels <r...@michaels.me.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Are both of the sites in question developed by you or completely
> unrelated?
> > If they are unrelated and have no access to the other one then this would
> > clearly point to a problem with cf and not hosteks fault.
> > In which case you should yry to reproduce locally with the same version
> of
> > cf.
> >
> > If they are related to you then this is more likely you are using the
> same
> > smtp settings somewhere.
> >
> > There is one way to completely bypass cfmail for sending email, and also
> > get much better tracking, reporting and reliability at the same time.
> > Take a look at sendgrid.net and sending via their api.
> >
> > Russ Michaels
> > www.michaels.me.uk
> > cfmldeveloper.com
> > cflive.net
> > cfsearch.com
> > On 21 Aug 2013 13:16, "Andrew Scott" <andr...@andyscott.id.au> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Sort off, just have no proof that is what is happening to me. What I do
> > > know, is that I have 5 emails that is clearly sent from another web
> > > application on the same server, sitting in my sent folder.
> > >
> > > I have been having issues with Hostek the last four weeks where my mail
> > > just stops being sent, they are at a loss to explain this, but there
> are
> > > errors to do with authentication in the logs. At least this is what I
> am
> > > being told and shown.
> > >
> > > Some months ago, I had this issue and emailed the person that I was
> > getting
> > > these emails from and he was dumbfounded as well, and was not aware
> that
> > > this was happening.
> > >
> > > What I can tell you is that there is a setting in the CFadmin to keep
> the
> > > mail connection open. However it appears that if this setting is
> switched
> > > on, and two people with seconds of each other send an email to the same
> > > server, ColdFusion will hold the connection open and use the
> credentials
> > of
> > > the previous person.
> > >
> > > So for arguments sake if I send an email via my website, and another
> > > customer does the same from their website, then the mail is sent using
> > the
> > > credentials of the first connection to that mail server.
> > >
> > > But as usual, as no other customer on Hostek has complained about
> this, I
> > > am reaching out to those who may be hosted there and use gmail for
> their
> > > mail. To hear if they are actually having the same issues as well.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Andrew Scott
> > > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Russ Michaels <r...@michaels.me.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > So are you saying that mail sent from your gmail account is ending up
> > in
> > > > other peoples sent items?
> > > >
> > > > Russ Michaels
> > > > www.michaels.me.uk
> > > > cfmldeveloper.com
> > > > cflive.net
> > > > cfsearch.com
> > > > On 21 Aug 2013 11:51, "Andrew Scott" <andr...@andyscott.id.au>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I am reaching out to everyone who is using hostek for their
> hosting,
> > > and
> > > > > using gmail for your mail, your mail may not be being sent.
> > > > >
> > > > > There appears to be an issue on their servers at the moment, where
> > mail
> > > > > being sent just stops, well for me at least. Also it is possible
> that
> > > > some
> > > > > people are seeing your mail without you knowing about it.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example, I have 3 other customers of Hostek who have sent email
> > > from
> > > > > their hosted website on hostek, sitting in my sent folders. I wont
> go
> > > > into
> > > > > the implications this has from a security point of view, with
> details
> > > > > sitting in my gmail account about someone else's intended email.
> But
> > it
> > > > is
> > > > > a known bug in ColdFusion that seems to not be that well known, at
> > > least
> > > > > nothing can be found via a google search any way.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Andrew Scott
> > > > > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > > > > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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