Dean, sorry I have no access to a shared hosting providers cfadmin. So I am
at their mercy to make changes to fix the issue.

Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411



On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Dean Lawrence <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Andrew,
>
> Would setting the "spoolenable" attribute of cfmail to "no" possibly help
> the issue? I have no idea if CF utilizes existing connections when not
> using it's spool, but it is worth a try.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Andrew Scott <andr...@andyscott.id.au
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > I can't reproduce locally, as this is an Enterprise only feature in the
> > admin. I know this is not hosteks fault, I just need it sorted. Hostek
> have
> > already stated the below response. The change suggested below, actually
> > does fix this at least it has been working fine for over 8 months, till
> > recently when the mail just keeps stopping every two days. And then I
> > started seeing other web applications emails in my sent folder.
> >
> > Response from Hostek.
> >
> > *We have identified the cause of the issue.  The setting 'Maintain
> > connection to mail server' in the 'Mail' section of the CFAdmin is what
> is
> > causing this.  If multiple sites on the server are using the same SMTP
> > server, such as 'smtp.gmail.com', this setting causes ColdFusion to
> re-use
> > that connection until it completes sending emails to that server that are
> > currently in the queue.  So, if both sites send an e-mail with the same
> > 10-15 second period, it re-used the first site's authentication
> credentials
> > since it did not re-establish the connection.
> >
> > This is not an issue for sites using the default cfmail settings since
> the
> > local smtp service does not use username/password credentials, and it
> > improves performance for mail sent locally when there is a lot of mail
> > being sent.  However, for now, I have disabled the 'Maintain connection
> to
> > mail server' option to prevent the issue when using external mail
> servers.
> >  We will submit a bug report to Adobe suggesting that they treat CFMail
> > tags with different authentication credentials as if they were sending to
> > different servers (I.E. only use the same connection if the same
> > username/password are specified).
> > *
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrew Scott
> > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Russ Michaels <r...@michaels.me.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Are both of the sites in question developed by you or completely
> > unrelated?
> > > If they are unrelated and have no access to the other one then this
> would
> > > clearly point to a problem with cf and not hosteks fault.
> > > In which case you should yry to reproduce locally with the same version
> > of
> > > cf.
> > >
> > > If they are related to you then this is more likely you are using the
> > same
> > > smtp settings somewhere.
> > >
> > > There is one way to completely bypass cfmail for sending email, and
> also
> > > get much better tracking, reporting and reliability at the same time.
> > > Take a look at sendgrid.net and sending via their api.
> > >
> > > Russ Michaels
> > > www.michaels.me.uk
> > > cfmldeveloper.com
> > > cflive.net
> > > cfsearch.com
> > > On 21 Aug 2013 13:16, "Andrew Scott" <andr...@andyscott.id.au> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Sort off, just have no proof that is what is happening to me. What I
> do
> > > > know, is that I have 5 emails that is clearly sent from another web
> > > > application on the same server, sitting in my sent folder.
> > > >
> > > > I have been having issues with Hostek the last four weeks where my
> mail
> > > > just stops being sent, they are at a loss to explain this, but there
> > are
> > > > errors to do with authentication in the logs. At least this is what I
> > am
> > > > being told and shown.
> > > >
> > > > Some months ago, I had this issue and emailed the person that I was
> > > getting
> > > > these emails from and he was dumbfounded as well, and was not aware
> > that
> > > > this was happening.
> > > >
> > > > What I can tell you is that there is a setting in the CFadmin to keep
> > the
> > > > mail connection open. However it appears that if this setting is
> > switched
> > > > on, and two people with seconds of each other send an email to the
> same
> > > > server, ColdFusion will hold the connection open and use the
> > credentials
> > > of
> > > > the previous person.
> > > >
> > > > So for arguments sake if I send an email via my website, and another
> > > > customer does the same from their website, then the mail is sent
> using
> > > the
> > > > credentials of the first connection to that mail server.
> > > >
> > > > But as usual, as no other customer on Hostek has complained about
> > this, I
> > > > am reaching out to those who may be hosted there and use gmail for
> > their
> > > > mail. To hear if they are actually having the same issues as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Andrew Scott
> > > > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > > > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Russ Michaels <r...@michaels.me.uk>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So are you saying that mail sent from your gmail account is ending
> up
> > > in
> > > > > other peoples sent items?
> > > > >
> > > > > Russ Michaels
> > > > > www.michaels.me.uk
> > > > > cfmldeveloper.com
> > > > > cflive.net
> > > > > cfsearch.com
> > > > > On 21 Aug 2013 11:51, "Andrew Scott" <andr...@andyscott.id.au>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am reaching out to everyone who is using hostek for their
> > hosting,
> > > > and
> > > > > > using gmail for your mail, your mail may not be being sent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There appears to be an issue on their servers at the moment,
> where
> > > mail
> > > > > > being sent just stops, well for me at least. Also it is possible
> > that
> > > > > some
> > > > > > people are seeing your mail without you knowing about it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For example, I have 3 other customers of Hostek who have sent
> email
> > > > from
> > > > > > their hosted website on hostek, sitting in my sent folders. I
> wont
> > go
> > > > > into
> > > > > > the implications this has from a security point of view, with
> > details
> > > > > > sitting in my gmail account about someone else's intended email.
> > But
> > > it
> > > > > is
> > > > > > a known bug in ColdFusion that seems to not be that well known,
> at
> > > > least
> > > > > > nothing can be found via a google search any way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Andrew Scott
> > > > > > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > > > > > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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