Ah.  Indeed.  :)

--Ben

On 10/24/2013 11:53 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
> I think you got the wrong end of the stick.
> I was talking about the apps  rather than the language.
>
> Russ Michaels
> www.michaels.me.uk
> cfmldeveloper.com
> cflive.net
> cfsearch.com
> On 25 Oct 2013 04:34, "Ben Conner" <b...@webworldinc.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Russ,
>>
>> You mention php and security with the suggestion that php sites are
>> (relatively)
>> secure.  I know little about php other than having been told at one time
>> that
>> php had some significant issues with security.  I also understand since it
>> is
>> open-source, it is much like the *nix variations...as in what flavor are we
>> talking about?
>>
>> Is php more bullet-proof these days?
>>
>> Idle curiosity, mainly.
>>
>> --Ben
>>
>> On 10/24/2013 11:55 AM, Russ Michaels wrote:
>>> If you don't do php then you may have some limits but tbh I haven't found
>>> anything that there is not a plugin for.
>>> The other big advantage with foss is the constant updates. But then
>>> disadvantage is popular foss getd attacked more often too.
>>> With a bespoke website your usually never going to get any updates unless
>>> you get hacked and then have to ask someone to fix it. This is a big
>>> consideration these days that did not exist  when the sites were built.
>> We
>>> get this a lot with legacy cf sites which got hacked months  b4 client
>>> noticed and it usually takes us less time to convert the site to wp than
>> it
>>> would take to go through all the code adding cfqueryparam and protecting
>>> against other attacks.
>>> I am no fan of php but safly all the b3st apps are built in php.
>>>
>>> Russ Michaels
>>> www.michaels.me.uk
>>> cfmldeveloper.com
>>> cflive.net
>>> cfsearch.com
>>> On 24 Oct 2013 18:25, "Robert Harrison" <rob...@austin-williams.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> TBH doing something in CF if you can do it in wordPress is pointless
>> and
>>>> more expensive. Knocking out quick websites is not really what CF is
>> good
>>>> for these days, so I think you are doing the right thing.
>>>>> Use CF if they wan't completely bespoke systems or apps that you cannot
>>>> achieve with off the shelf FOSS.
>>>>
>>>> I understand, but we do have a modular framework and CMS already
>> developed
>>>> in CF. We can configure and deploy quite quickly in CF. I'm not seeing a
>>>> significant difference in development time between WP and CF, but I do
>> see
>>>> that hosting WP sites is much easier and the perception is that WP is
>> more
>>>> current.  However, I also see that I never have to say no to my clients
>>>> running CF, but those running WP must stay inside the box.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Harrison
>>>> Director of Interactive Services
>>>>
>>>> Austin & Williams
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>
> 

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