My take on all of this certification business is this:
Fine if you are an ACP, better if you are and MCSE because many companies that use MS
solutions like to "require" it of their consultants.
As far as CF certification goes, I am not certified yet, but I know too many people
who are certified and still ask the same old questions that could be looked up in a
heart-beat. Code samples and links to previous work are by far the best things to
judge a person's experience and competence by. Also, requiring ungodly amounts of
skills and skillsets is ridiculous. How many companies list: ColdFusion, JavaScript,
DHTML, C++, Java, Perl, PHP, ASP, SQL Server, Oracle, etc, the list goes on and on.
I'd worry about someone who comes to interview with me and says they know all of those
things really well. I truly think there are only a handful of people who don't eat or
sleep that are experts in all of those things. I would like someone with a more
narrow skillset, say CF, JavaScript and SQL Server, maybe DHTML, and to know those
skills INSIDE-OUT. That to me would show that they are focused on mastering languages
and applications. There is nothing wrong with posting "desired" or "skills that would
be a plus" or "some knowledge a plus" areas, but I just don't think it's realistic to
required every single scripting language and database server.
-Andy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:21 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Brainbench certification
>
>
> Yeh I know that theyu don't have any involvement in certs - just the guy
> advised us to wait as if he knew something or had heard from someone at
> Macromedia along the grapevine. Still what you're saying is music to my
> ears too!!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Skinner - Digital Dreams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 30 May 2001 14:13
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Brainbench certification
>
>
> Unipalm?
>
> Well I've been searching for the email and can't find it but I
> think it was
> the email about the CF 5 launch. Im 100% sure though as I remember being
> quite pleased, I had a difficult enough time getting around to doing the
> previous cert. Unipalm have no involvement with Certs so I'd check with
> macromedia directly if I were you.
>
> Alex Skinner
> Macromedia Certified Trainer
> Digital Dreams
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy Ewings
> Sent: 30 May 2001 13:08
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Brainbench certification
>
>
> Really? - can you point me in the direction of this? I got my info from
> UniPam - the CF distributors for the UK but if Macromedia are saying
> someting different.......
>
> I'm assuming though that people who pass a CF 5 exam will have an
> advantage
> over the people who passed 4.5 exams. i.e. the 4.5 'ers will have
> to upgrade
> at some point? If this is the case does anyone know of timescales?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Skinner - Digital Dreams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 30 May 2001 12:52
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Brainbench certification
>
>
> >we've heard that any certification we get now will expire as the newer
> >versions of CF come out.
>
>
> Not the case all existing certs will be automatically upgraded to CF5
> according to a macromedia bulletin I received I can forward it to
> you if you
> like
>
>
> Alex Skinner
> Macromedia Certified Trainer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy Ewings
> Sent: 30 May 2001 11:11
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Brainbench certification
>
>
> I reckon that the Allaire (oops Macromedia) certification is more highly
> rearded. We've got a couple of Brainbenchers here but no ACP's
> as yet. We
> are waiting for the CF5 test to come out before we send people on
> it because
> we've heard that any certification we get now will expire as nthe newer
> versions of CF come out.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Woods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 30 May 2001 10:58
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Brainbench certification
>
>
> http://www.brainbench.com
>
> Anyone know how well respected certification from this lot is around the
> world. I know there are loads of US and some UK and Australian
> users on the
> list - any of you heard of them?
>
> A friend of mine has just moved back to South Africa and she is apparently
> being asked for Brainbench certification for her CF skills,
> rather than the
> Allaire certification which I thought was very odd. I'm planning to move
> away from Ireland again soon and have been thinking that although I have a
> lot of proven experience, some certification wouldn't go amiss. Brainbench
> is cheap and they have certification covering pretty much all the areas in
> which I work.
>
>
> Mark
>
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