Re: Speak Up (WAS: Macromedia strong arms developers into 5.0 upgrade)

[David Hannum \(Ohio University\)]

That's right Lee.  If the "squeak" is LOUD ENOUGH, MM will listen!

Dave


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 5:34 PM
Subject: Speak Up (WAS: Macromedia strong arms developers into 5.0 upgrade)


> That is, indeed, most disturbing.
>
> Hm... Allaire heard us (and listened) when we spoke up before.  Maybe we
> all need to speak up now, to make this work for all of our community,
> not just the few with deeper pockets?
>
> Just my .02
>
>
> Lee Fuller
> Chief Technical Officer
> PrimeDNA Corporation / AAA Web Hosting Corporation
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> PS - I'm an avid and long time supporter of CF, and continue to be.  But
> what is fair and equitable must prevail.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Justin Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 1:54 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Macromedia strong arms developers into 5.0 upgrade
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I just had a very disturbing conversation with Macromedia.
> > We have been running CF/Apache on Windows for about 2.5 year
> > now and developing on Cold Fusion since the 1.5 days (cgi
> > only).  Version 1.3.20 of Apache for Win32 (which has been
> > available for over 6 months) is the first that Apache.org
> > says is stable (not that there have been problems with the
> > old versions). It has made available an enhanced API (EAPI)
> > but modules need to be compiled with EAPI support.
> > Unfortunately the existing Cold Fusion module for Apache on
> > Win32 uses the standard API.  I spoke with Macromedia in an
> > effort to get an EAPI build of the module and was informed
> > that they have no plans to compile an EAPI version of the
> > module for Cold Fusion 4.x on Windows, but that it will be
> > supported on Cold Fusion 5 and I should upgrade. Considering
> > the amount of time Cold Fusion 5 has been out and the
> > installed 4.x base (and the fact that I have a cluster of web
> > servers and this upgrade is cost prohibitive and
> > unnecessary), this strikes me as a blatant attempt to force
> > upgrades.  I think that they have been going to Microsoft school.
> >
> > I now feel that I have no alternative but to investigate
> > alternatives to Cold Fusion as I no longer have faith that
> > Macromedia has any intention of providing the type of support
> > it's developer community needs.  A far cry from the days that
> > Allaire was compiling custom builds of 3.x for me while we
> > tried to track down threading problems in the Cold Fusion
> > Server service. This is annoying as we have a lot of code
> > that will need to be re-written, but it will end up being
> > cheaper in the long run if this is indicative of how
> > Macromedia is going to respond.
> >
> > I hope that I am not the only one who is disturbed by this
> > and that Macromedia will reconsider their position on this.
> >
> > Disappointed,
> > Justin Greene
> >
> > p.s.  Allaire posted a resolution to the EXACT problem for
> > Linux on August 7, 2000 in KB#  16303, however it requires
> > the source for the module which I was told would not be made
> > available for windows.
> >
> > --
> > Justin Greene
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