yeah we have had problems with ORBS... weirdly it called one of our servers open somehow because we customarily bounce bad mail back or have a responder reply that the account has moved or is invalid... whatever, no relaying... or so it says in my configuration..
based on their lack of service, documentation and slow response if is an ass burner... I had a ditto experience a while back... sooner or later someone will haul them in and find five others and class action them... It is a nice gesture... but way to heavy handed... they should at least allow unlimited resubmissions for debugging purposes.... never nice dealing with them... It is like dealing with the Borg... Well two of us.. who else hates this piece of net trash? -paris -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 15:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists? Hey All, <cf_rant> I just had an mazingly frustrating experiences with one of the blackhole database maintainers (ordb.org). These folks think they are doing favours by helping ISP's to block mail server IPs that are running open relays (allow spammers to send using that mail server), but their implementation SUCKS! The Scenario: I'm running a development box with IMS as a mail server (and hosting a client's domain during development). After about 8 months with no mail issues whatsoever I receive a bunch of spam test messages from ORDB.org and then get a message saying that my mai lever was an open relay and had been added to their database. This database is provided to ISPs so they can block ALL mail coming from the IP addresses in it. SOOOooooOOoooo ORDB thinks it's best to just add my IP with NO warning and no chance to fix the issue before getting blacklisted. Well that bit of strong arming shut down my mail server and my client couldn't send any mail (BTW my logs show that no spam EVER went through the system). You then have to try and fix the problem (not easy in IMS) and submit your IP for re-testing (which they say takes 5-10 hours...reality was 12 plus hrs). If you haven't closed the relay then you have to try again (which I had to do). My client was without e-mail for over 2 days. I had to get rid of IMS and found a GREAT free mail servr that allows SMTP authentication (Argo Soft...get it). My communications with ORDB were less than fruitful. They didn't care that my mail service was interrupted and said they don't give you a warning because then more spam would get through (which there was none). So these guys would rather innocent people lose their mail service instead of allowing a few more spams through...geesh. To top it off they hide behind the "well it;s the ISPs that block you..we just provide them with the database of IPs". Which transaltes to "He didn't have to use the gun I handed him"!! Well their predecesor ORBS had 2 legal injunctions against them and had to shut down. I'm sure if they continue to stop valid mail service that someone with the time and money will go after them too...awwwwwww what a shame *insert eveil grin here* </cf_rant> Thanks for listening...and get ArgoSoft's mail server....super easy to use and install Bryan Stevenson VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
