Totally true. It's the cert and the portfolio and the... And the... And a few... And of course, the...
There's no one thing. For example I have almost no portfolio except for screen captures of sites long since changed or gone altogether. I do intranet apps so it's hard to point people to the site, so the cert helps in that regard. J. John Wilker Web Applications Consultant Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer President/Founder, Inland Empire CFUG. Writer / Technical Writer www.red-omega.com "more people are killed by donkeys than by airplane crashes each year" -----Original Message----- From: Steve Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 6:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Certification - feedback needed. That's usually where a portfolio comes in to play. If you (with no CF cert) show someone your work, and it's excellent work, then someone with a CF cert shows them some work, and it's shabby, they're more then likely going to go with the one with better skills and experience. ______________________ steve oliver atnet solutions, inc. http://www.atnetsolutions.com -----Original Message----- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 9:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Certification - feedback needed. This is an interesting conclusion, but you probably do not have a big enough sample to say for sure. I think there are a lot of plusses to certification, especially if you are consulting. It makes you an expert to people who don't know any better. And, just about every company uses some form of technology, but not every company is a technology company. For example, let's say the editors of Mike's Guitars Magazine (Not a real magazine) want to create a web-site and update it on a weekly basis (Let's assume they publish issues on a weekly basis). So, they turn around and hire a full-time web developer. If they understood web technology, they probably wouldn't make good editors of a guitar magazine... So, they hire someone who does. It makes logical business sense. At 04:53 PM 02/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Never been certified in anything...that's not to say I'm not certifiable >though :) > >Before I was at the position I am in now, I had two offers I was looking at. >One paid higher, but was looking for the piece of paper. The other paid >lower, but all they wanted was to talk to me and see code. Two and a half >years later I'm still at what was the lower paying job, and the other >company is out of business... > >Take from that what you will. What I take from it is that the only companies >that require certification are the ones who do not understand the technology >and can not evaluate a potential employee based on actual skills. Hence they >fail because they do not understand the industry that they are in. -- Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Need a Web Developer? Contact me! AIM: Reboog711 | Fax / Phone: 860-223-7946 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Band: http://www.farcryfly.com ______________________________________________________________________ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists