I completely agree. If you plan (I'm not saying you do) to rest just on the paper it's not worth much. After all it's just a test, I've seen people pass the MCSE exams without actually having any experience, they took classes and read books. That's not to say they are better qualified than an engineer with a few years of experience..
I took the test because Keen said, if it boils down to two candidates the own who took the time to get something in writing that he knows his stuff maybe have better chances. I know that along with some other extracurricular activities, my cert helped land my current gig. The way I see it, it's what you make of it. I intend (some day to get MM's web developer cert) just because IMHO it sets me apart as being someone who put my money where my mouth is. Before any flames come my way I'm not dissing anyone who is and ain't gonna get certified, but I know plenty of developers who aren't worth half what they make and could never pass the test, and I want to make sure when it comes down to me and them, I stand out. J. John Wilker Web Applications Consultant Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer President/Founder, Inland Empire CFUG. Writer / Technical Writer www.red-omega.com "more people are killed by donkeys than by airplane crashes each year" -----Original Message----- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 4:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Certification - feedback needed. Certification is NOT a panacea. It's only one item on a list that should include many other things - people skills, team involvement, a portfolio of sorts etc. Having said that, it's cheap and relatively easy to get certified if you are an intermediate level programmer - so why not? It won't automatically get you a job, but it will show you have an interest in a certain level of professionalism - and that you are ambitious (a desirable quality to managers who are not insecure). that's my take and I'm sticking to it <g>. mark -----Original Message----- From: Keen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 1:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Certification - feedback needed. I have only seen a couple of job postings the say certification desired or required. In the current market it seems that who is willing to work for the lowest rate is what the majority of employers are concerned with - at least that is what I am seeing on SoCal. That said I would still take it because if you are competing with another developer that has the same qualifications it may help tip things in your favor. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 10:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Certification - feedback needed. I sent out this email last week - Anyone want to share their feedback? Thanks- ========================== I may take the exam in few weeks and I'm wondering if anyone , who has taken the exam and passed , would be willing to share some of their stories after getting the certification. Did it improve your employment or contract opportunities greatly? Did the managers take you more seriously because they understood you were a certified developer? Things like that are coming to my mind lately and I'd love to hear all people's success stories. Thanks! Nathaniel Horwitz Developer http://www.nathanielhorwitz.com ______________________________________________________________________ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists