I certainly wouldn't want to do that any more than you would, Matt. I'm
not sure what you're referring to, though.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX)


Indeed, more power to you for helping people. But, do you have to use
common programming terms incorrectly? Showing people techniques is one
thing, but to show a technique and pass it off as something it is not,
certainly isn't helpful the person or the community in general.

-Matt

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Helms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:12 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX)
> 
> I agree there's no formal specification, Dave. We're all working 
> developers and though people contribute enormously to spreading
Fusebox,
> we haven't created a formal spec. That may come at some point, but
most
> of our efforts are focused on helping people learn use Fusebox to 
> achieve successful software projects.
> 
> In response to your question to Steve, Tim Heald asked us to respond
to
> some Fusebox talk on the CF-List. I'm happy to try to help, but I know

> that some folks have an animus against Fusebox that I can't help with.

> In short, if I can offer info, I will but I respect your time too much

> to waste it trying to convert you. Besides, my take on this is that 
> we're all in this together, Fuseboxers and non-Fuseboxers alike. We 
> share a common goal and a common love for creative programming. A lot
of
> people have found Fusebox helpful; some people don't. Let a thousand 
> flowers bloom, as the Chinese say.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:54 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX)
> 
> 
> > > > There are two books coming out on Fusebox that should help to 
> > > > alleviate the lack of available information on exactly what 
> > > > Fusebox is. John Quarto and I wrote one called "Discovering 
> > > > Fusebox 3" and Jeff Peters/Nat Papovich wrote one for New
Riders.
> > > > That will help people who want to find out for themselves what 
> > > > Fusebox is all about.
> > >
> > > Well, hi, Hal!
> > >
> > > That's nice and all, but where's the definitive specification? I 
> > > don't have to shell out for that, do I? It doesn't have to be 
> > > stimulating reading, it just has to be a specification.
> >
> > http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=learn.specification
> >
> > CF and PHP are there, JSP is coming pretty soon.
> 
> Well, hi to you too Steve! What did they do, ring the alarm bell at 
> fusebox.org?
> 
> I went there, before posting the previous post, and there's nothing 
> there which is a specification. There are some implementations,
there's
> some documentation, but no specification in the formal sense.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
> 
> 
> 

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