So whether some people call it a methodology, others a framework, others a standard, 
are you saying that changes it's
usefulness?

Steve

Matt Liotta wrote:

> Since I first saw Fusebox, its web site as well as some of its
> proponents like Steve and Nat have termed it as among other things, an
> architecture, an application framework, a methodology, and more recently
> a standard. About the only term remotely related to Fusebox is
> methodology.
>
> -Matt
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hal Helms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:24 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX)
> >
> > I certainly wouldn't want to do that any more than you would, Matt.
> I'm
> > not sure what you're referring to, though.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:16 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX)
> >
> >
> > Indeed, more power to you for helping people. But, do you have to use
> > common programming terms incorrectly? Showing people techniques is one
> > thing, but to show a technique and pass it off as something it is not,
> > certainly isn't helpful the person or the community in general.
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hal Helms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:12 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX)
> > >
> > > I agree there's no formal specification, Dave. We're all working
> > > developers and though people contribute enormously to spreading
> > Fusebox,
> > > we haven't created a formal spec. That may come at some point, but
> > most
> > > of our efforts are focused on helping people learn use Fusebox to
> > > achieve successful software projects.
> > >
> > > In response to your question to Steve, Tim Heald asked us to respond
> > to
> > > some Fusebox talk on the CF-List. I'm happy to try to help, but I
> know
> >
> > > that some folks have an animus against Fusebox that I can't help
> with.
> >
> > > In short, if I can offer info, I will but I respect your time too
> much
> >
> > > to waste it trying to convert you. Besides, my take on this is that
> > > we're all in this together, Fuseboxers and non-Fuseboxers alike. We
> > > share a common goal and a common love for creative programming. A
> lot
> > of
> > > people have found Fusebox helpful; some people don't. Let a thousand
> > > flowers bloom, as the Chinese say.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:54 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX)
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > There are two books coming out on Fusebox that should help to
> > > > > > alleviate the lack of available information on exactly what
> > > > > > Fusebox is. John Quarto and I wrote one called "Discovering
> > > > > > Fusebox 3" and Jeff Peters/Nat Papovich wrote one for New
> > Riders.
> > > > > > That will help people who want to find out for themselves what
> > > > > > Fusebox is all about.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, hi, Hal!
> > > > >
> > > > > That's nice and all, but where's the definitive specification? I
> > > > > don't have to shell out for that, do I? It doesn't have to be
> > > > > stimulating reading, it just has to be a specification.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=learn.specification
> > > >
> > > > CF and PHP are there, JSP is coming pretty soon.
> > >
> > > Well, hi to you too Steve! What did they do, ring the alarm bell at
> > > fusebox.org?
> > >
> > > I went there, before posting the previous post, and there's nothing
> > > there which is a specification. There are some implementations,
> > there's
> > > some documentation, but no specification in the formal sense.
> > >
> > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > > voice: (202) 797-5496
> > > fax: (202) 797-5444
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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