Here Here! Like I said in my bio, I barely used Fusebox except on a few
small projects so I'm not here to endorse it. I'm just here to be a
contributor to CMS and get this project going!
-----Original Message-----
From: John Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 11:00 PM
To: CF_OpenSource
Subject: RE: Next step
Another day for the project wasted on getting started over the rants of one
who does not like fusebox. I think we get the picture that Matt does not
like fusebox. Fine. No one is going to convince him of that.
Now, Matt can make the decision to work on the project based upon the way
the admin has set it up or he can decide to go and continue his commercial
efforts, just as he could easily say to a client coming to his shop who is
dead-set on having a site done in fusebox that he is not interested in the
job.
As far as the usefulness/uselessness of fusebox as presented, my comment is
this. If fusebox is as mediocre as Matt would make it out to be, I would
suspect that Jeremy Allaire and Kevin Lynch would find something better to
do the day before DevCon, then speak at the Fusebox Conference.
So are we going to start moving forward with this project or are we going
continue to play mine is bigger than yours?
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 9:37 PM
To: CF_OpenSource
Subject: RE: Next step
>conventions for optimal factoring
Please elaborate on this.
>constrained interconnections between components
Great buzzwords, but they don't apply to Fusebox
>well-defined private versus public APIs
Again, doesn't apply to Fusebox
>manageable distributed development
What does Fusebox have that allows this and what are other methodologies
missing that make them unmanageable for distributed development?
>separation of presentation from logic from data-access
Fusebox has a half-hearted attempt at this, but no true separation.
>well-controlled query-caching
This seems to be more a function of CF than Fusebox and I wouldn't call
CF's well controlled.
>excellent code re-use
Excellent as compared to what?
>maximum readability/comprehensibility
Compared to what?
>easy integration between multiple applications
Easy? Sure, but Fusebox offers no interface to do this and thus makes
this a potentially bad thing.
>Add to that some excellent associated methodologies and tools like
wireframing, devnotes, test harnesses, and a large, thoughtful
community.
These are specific to Fusebox.
>And a couple of useful Custom Tags.
Custom tags don't scale. This isn't however specific to Fusebox tags. I
have yet to see a scalable CF application that made use of CFML custom
tags.
-Matt
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