Can someone please correct me if I am wrong, but.. I played around with RonR a few weekends ago and while it was quick to get a blog going, it seemed like it would be difficult to build a more complex application. Basically as far as I could see, RonR is good for getting raw data (yes, I know you can join tables, whoopdidoo) and plonking it into a web layout. Anything more complex would require a deepened understanding of the language and many hours of stuffing around, kind of like CF, but CF has an advantage.
CF is simple, easy to learn and understand plus it doesn't try to obfuscate things into models and so forth (though there are many models out there to do this).. And how many really good developers can you get for Ruby at the moment? Heres an idea which could "revolutionise" the industry, build a CF-on-rails. Joel -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006 10:10 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Why buy into CF? please forgive me if this comes across as trolling but I'm running out of ammo here in trying to keep the CF flag flying here's the question: Why Buy into CF? because of rapid development? - NOPE!: not compared against RubyOnRails, it seems. It's true against Java/JSP development or ASP.NET/C# but CF seems to be no longer the fastest pocket-rocket. because of built-in flash remoting, making it the most cost-effective way of supporting AMF3 for Flex2? - NOPE!: "How much does WebORB for Rails cost?.. WebORB for Rails is an open source project. It is available free of charge under the GNU General Public License" http://www.themidnightcoders.com/weborb/rubyonrails/faq.htm#howmuch (FYI: WebOrb is a company picking up where PHPAMF left off...) it has features like CFDOCUMENT? Verity? - NOPE!: some ppl (G'day Gareth!) found limitations with CFDocument real fast and switched to using the latest iText libraries natively. Ditto with Verity, replaced with Lucerne. CFREPORT? ... dunno, could never fly that as a solution. too limiting, no interest. FlashForms? ... no call for them really, especially now that Flex2 is out Gateways? ... could never float this as something meaningful. Either the systems were standard, not enterprise - or - the enterprise boxes were stuck on CF6.1 and it's not enough reason to upgrade. it's got a large, active, supportive community? ... I'd say yes compared to Java and .NET... but not against the evangellical RonR world, who seems to gain the strength of 10 because their platform is opensource. ... and everything they touch seems to turn to opensource.... So, keeping in mind CF8 in development... ... what could possibly entice ppl to buy into CF, either from scratch - or - upgrading from CF6.1? this is a serious ask of, not why CF people are where they are now, but how they can justify traveling down the CF road in the future. (maybe I'm gowing weary of the luddites here that won't upgrade the dwindling number of servers to CF7, the undermining pro-RubyOnRails camp here ... and that opensource WebOrb AMF3 news.. that's the last [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ straw...) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
