Name the company behind PHP. Regards Dale Fraser
http://dale.fraser.id.au -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod Higgins Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006 11:01 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF? No php? Hmm ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Fraser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <cfaussie@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF? > > There are lots of reasons. > > It doesn't just give you web stuff it gives you a lot more, like PDF, > report > writing, Flash / Flex hooks > > It leverages the power of Java without the complexity. > > Compared to pulling in lots of different OS / Free solutions to achieve > the > same result, you are better off with CF. Are these OS options going to be > supported long term. > > Can you find developers who now all these little technologies and can work > for you. > > Were is the support / training for these products. > > Most likely some of these OS options will grow up and be contenders, but > personally I wouldn't be jumping on any platform that wasn't provided by a > main stream player. Which in my opinion leaves only three options. > > 1. Adobe - Coldfusion / Flex > 2. Microsoft - .NET > 3. Sun - Java > > Regards > Dale Fraser > > http://dale.fraser.id.au > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > Of Bjorn Schultheiss > Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006 10:36 AM > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > Subject: [cfaussie] Why buy into CF? > > > > Personally I havent got down with the RoR yet, so I'm not familiar with > the > ruby language. > > In terms of a Flex/CF setup there are a lot of benefits. > Basically you got the weight of Adobe pushing this combination to enable > quick deployment of apps. > That includes documentation, examples, engineer feedback, new updates. > That being said you must pay. > > I think I'll have to build a Flex/RoR app first before making an > assessment. > > > Regards, > > Bjorn Schultheiss > Senior Flash Developer > QDC Technologies > > -----Original Message----- > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > Of Barry Beattie > Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006 10:10 AM > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > Subject: [cfaussie] Why buy into CF? > > > please forgive me if this comes across as trolling but I'm running out of > ammo here in trying to keep the CF flag flying > > here's the question: Why Buy into CF? > > because of rapid development? > - NOPE!: not compared against RubyOnRails, it seems. It's true against > Java/JSP development or ASP.NET/C# but CF seems to be no longer the > fastest > pocket-rocket. > > because of built-in flash remoting, making it the most cost-effective way > of > supporting AMF3 for Flex2? > - NOPE!: "How much does WebORB for Rails cost?.. WebORB for Rails is an > open source project. It is available free of charge under the GNU General > Public License" > http://www.themidnightcoders.com/weborb/rubyonrails/faq.htm#howmuch > (FYI: WebOrb is a company picking up where PHPAMF left off...) > > it has features like CFDOCUMENT? Verity? > - NOPE!: some ppl (G'day Gareth!) found limitations with CFDocument real > fast and switched to using the latest iText libraries natively. > Ditto with Verity, replaced with Lucerne. > > CFREPORT? > ... dunno, could never fly that as a solution. too limiting, no interest. > FlashForms? > ... no call for them really, especially now that Flex2 is out Gateways? > ... could never float this as something meaningful. Either the systems > were > standard, not enterprise - or - the enterprise boxes were stuck on CF6.1 > and > it's not enough reason to upgrade. > > it's got a large, active, supportive community? > ... I'd say yes compared to Java and .NET... but not against the > evangellical RonR world, who seems to gain the strength of 10 because > their > platform is opensource. ... and everything they touch seems to turn to > opensource.... > > So, keeping in mind CF8 in development... > > ... what could possibly entice ppl to buy into CF, either from scratch > - or - upgrading from CF6.1? > > this is a serious ask of, not why CF people are where they are now, but > how > they can justify traveling down the CF road in the future. > > (maybe I'm gowing weary of the luddites here that won't upgrade the > dwindling number of servers to CF7, the undermining pro-RubyOnRails camp > here ... and that opensource WebOrb AMF3 news.. that's the last [EMAIL > PROTECTED]@ > straw...) > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---