Mike, Product evangelist is basically a fancy name for technical sales person, I've never meet an Adobe evangelist who wasn't trying to sell me something and I'm sure Microsoft evangelists are the same. I guess my issue is that reading when Scott is saying (I have no issues with Scott as a person, respect his technical ability and have known him several years) he is not interested in selling anything, has no sales bent and is impartial on technology I don't think this is the case. For example Scott says it's not a sales pitch but will have a pre- sales team on hand, off course it's a sales pitch!. Even if Scott is not directly measured on sales he will be part of a team that is and the cost of the events will, for sure be coming from a sales and marketing budget. He is also measured for getting awareness of xyz products so the more he posts links and info on this to the mailing list the more he is hitting his KPI's.
I guess my issue is that Scott is in a technical sales role and is on the list trying his hardest to appear as an impartial technologist which he is not, he gave up that right when he joined Microsoft, in the same way that I gave up being impartial to CF and Flex when we build our products on those platforms. As I said, I have no problem with Scott or with Microsoft (around 60% of our clients deploy that that platform and half our internal servers run the OS) but I do have an issues with the marketing technique as if we tried it (posting about our technology on a competitors community list) we would get hammered for it. Grant On Jan 29, 2:16 pm, "Mike Kear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Grant, we often get led off into concerns that arent anything to do with > us. If you work for Adobe, and your job is to promote ColdFusion over > competing products, then you would be watching anything Microsoft does and > would want to one-up them whenever you can. Great. That's now the > capitalist system works, and it encourages innovation. > > For the vast majority of us on this list however, we DON'T work for Adobe, > we work as web developers for a whole variety of organisations, or for > ourselves, and it's our job as developers to learn as much as possible > about the things available to us to do our job better. We shouldn't get > blinded by Adobe's goals. > > If Scott wants to give us some information about what Micosoft has to > offer, I say that's a terrific thing. He has good experience of ColdFusion > and could put a perspective on it that few others would or could. Grant, > what if Scott could tell you about some little-known aspect of a Microsoft > product that could revolutionise your development life? You'd be a mug not > to listen, just because it might offend Adobe? They're big grown up boys > now, they can look after themselves. It's our job to get ourselves across > as many of the internet disciplines as possible. > > Count me in Scott. Sounds like a bloody good thing to me! > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > AFP Webworkshttp://afpwebworks.com > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
