I agree the downloaded product is what we are discussing here, a boxed product is a different story.
Its not like anyone is trying to rip off Adobe or do an injustice to the Australian market, but there are heaps of products now that you can only buy online, and heaps of others that allow you to buy online regardless of your location. I know I purchase a lot of software this way in downloadable format, a lot of which I wouldn't even be able to find in a box anywhere. So I think its a change in thinking, I'm going to buy it online and look for the best deal I can. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guennadi M Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2007 1:36 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase Download products don't attract customs duty, insurance, shipping or gst. Adobe obviously don't pay any of the above. Why not let AU customers use USD pricing or use live exchange rate (make the conversion at the gateway/bank level at the checkout)?? GM On 12/12/07, Kai Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for being a voice of reason in this discussion, Barry. > > You're so 100% right - people who bugger of buying through > "a friend of a friend of a friend who lives in the US" to save > x AU$/NZ$ in fact should keep their voices pretty much down > when it comes to topics such as "Why isn't my local Adobe > office not doing X/Y/Z etc ?" in the future. > > Just looked up the "current" $ figures of that thread. > > If the figure of US$1200 is correct, that (as of right > now) coverts to AU$1353. As the pricing of US$1200 is > without any sales tax, let's look at the actual cost of > importing a physical product with the value of US$1200: > > Customs value (Cval) > 1353.00 > > Customs duty (Duty) @ 5% of Cval > 77.65 (Payable) > > International transport and insurance or postage (T&I) > ???, let's assume it's 50.00 dollars > > Value of the Taxable Importation (VoTI) (Cval+Duty+T&I) > 1480.65 > > Goods and Services Tax (GST) @ 10 per cent of the VoTI > 148.07 (Payable) > > Total payable Duty + GST > 225.72 > > That means your REAL cost for importing the product are AU$1578.72 > NOT including the assumed AU$50.00 for T&I (those have just > been used for the GST calculation). Oh, also don't forget > that if you pay with an AU credit card in the US, there > probably will be something like 1-3% additional foreign > currency use charges from your CC company. > > I can't really say anything to the figure of AU$1700 which was > mentioned, but if the latter is true, we're not too far off > anymore, are we? > > Oh, btw: Don't think you can fool the tax people with arguing > that you're not actually importing anything by downloading > stuff and getting an electronic license key. Both AU and NZ > have tax regulations for so called reverse GST charging and > duty in such a scenario, i.e. if you want to do it the proper > way and avoid any trouble with potential tax evasion in an > audit, you won't get around paying it :) > > Look, I'm not trying to convince anyone to buy locally, > do whatever you think is right. But at least compare apples > with apples and do the maths before you jump on any > cheapish-sounding price in US$, really. > > Cheers, > Kai > > > > >I wonder if buying in Australia has benefits other than price? > > > >I mean, that there's an Adobe Australia office here in Australia, New > >Zealand now has it's own "Adobe man on the ground" and there's even > >dedicated ColdFusion people (eg Mark Blair who put on the recent > >CFCAMP around the country). > > > >I'm thinking it may be hard to justify another CFCAMP if Australian > >sales are actually U.S sales. > > > >I'm just guessing, OK? I'm not an Adobe reseller... > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
