On 10/28/07, 0x0000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would also note that Paul doesn't seem to address the fact that none
> of the things he's saying he will do can actually be done.
>

Point taken, and a good point. However, somebody like Ron Paul with
veto power over congress is a pretty appealing idea in itself :)

> Things like eliminating the IRS will have to go through congress, and
> will never be approved, there.
>

I think we'd be more likely to gut the IRS by switching to a
consumption tax, as opposed to removing it entirely. Either way it's
an uphill battle given our current system. Progress is always
difficult, though.

> I don't buy that - of all the possible candidates - Paul the one - the
> only one, even - who is is ready, willing, and able to serve the
> interests of The People.  No one represents The People - if some one
> tried, that person would never make it onto the corporate media, which
> Paul has done.
>

Yeah, I sort of doubt he'll win the primaries. But it'd be fun to
watch if he did!

> So. So what?  Do you, Eater, really believe that a vote - any vote - in
> a US national election counts for anything at all?  Do you know
> something that leads you to beleive that the vote totals at both the
> state and national levels are not simply being bought and sold in the
> back parking lot at Diebold Corp or ESS?  If you do, please give over -
> let me know.
>

I think it's somewhere between "totally rigged" and "completely fair".
I'd like to think it trends toward the latter.

Public analysis and disclosure, as always, is our friend:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZws98jw67g

> The screening and selection of the so-called "candidates" prior to the
> full media push is also a big part of how the results of the election
> are controlled.   Remember Saddam Hussein was democratically elected by
> a 90-something percent landslide.   So was Hitler.
>

Tsk tsk.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

> So what is Ron Paul's /real/ agenda - I just can't adjust my thinking
> the point where I can believe that a white guy wearing a tie might not
> be lying to me.  Any faith or trust I may once have had in that system
> has be eradicated over the last couple decades of deconstruction
> applied to pretty much everything that was ever actually gotten right
> in the conception and implementation of the idea we call The United
> States of America.  And I'm finding more and more (in my old age) that
> there was precious little that was got right to begin with.
>

The fact that he's a white guy with a tie doesn't mean he's evil. The
fact that he's an old white guy with a tie *might* mean, all by
itself, that he'll never win the popularity contest necessary to be
president.

Malcolm Gladwell would probably say this is "The Warren Harding Error"
corollary.

  http://tourniquet.on.silkware.com/Blink-The-Warren-Harding-Error.2343.entry

> So far, this current regime has violated every single other article and
> clause of the Constitution of the United States of America.  Why should
> we - at this late date - believe that they will abide the clause
> concerning term limits, or even that the heads of the executive branch
> must be the same as those for whom votes are cast?  What's to stop them
> from simply issuing an executive order appointing the next ruler(s)?
>

Crossing the tinfoil-hat line with that one.

> "cannon fodder" in the Regime's War for Total Global Domination.    If
> you're cool with that, you're probably one of the 1%, and hence simply
> do not matter at all, in the real world outside your gated community.
>

I live in one of the few uppity communities *without* a gate, thankyouverymuch!

Anyway, doomsday predictions about evil government is hardly a new
meme, by any stretch of the imagination. I think it's important to
remain positive, and focus on constructive efforts. As citizens, our
best tool to affect change is education. The intarwebs make this
easier, so it's an interesting time to live in.

Cheers!
Eater

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