tl;dr Eater wrote: > On 10/28/07, 0x0000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I would also note that Paul doesn't seem to address the fact that none >> of the things he's saying he will do can actually be done. >> >> > > Point taken, and a good point. However, somebody like Ron Paul with > veto power over congress is a pretty appealing idea in itself :) > > >> Things like eliminating the IRS will have to go through congress, and >> will never be approved, there. >> >> > > I think we'd be more likely to gut the IRS by switching to a > consumption tax, as opposed to removing it entirely. Either way it's > an uphill battle given our current system. Progress is always > difficult, though. > > >> I don't buy that - of all the possible candidates - Paul the one - the >> only one, even - who is is ready, willing, and able to serve the >> interests of The People. No one represents The People - if some one >> tried, that person would never make it onto the corporate media, which >> Paul has done. >> >> > > Yeah, I sort of doubt he'll win the primaries. But it'd be fun to > watch if he did! > > >> So. So what? Do you, Eater, really believe that a vote - any vote - in >> a US national election counts for anything at all? Do you know >> something that leads you to beleive that the vote totals at both the >> state and national levels are not simply being bought and sold in the >> back parking lot at Diebold Corp or ESS? If you do, please give over - >> let me know. >> >> > > I think it's somewhere between "totally rigged" and "completely fair". > I'd like to think it trends toward the latter. > > Public analysis and disclosure, as always, is our friend: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZws98jw67g > > >> The screening and selection of the so-called "candidates" prior to the >> full media push is also a big part of how the results of the election >> are controlled. Remember Saddam Hussein was democratically elected by >> a 90-something percent landslide. So was Hitler. >> >> > > Tsk tsk. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law > > >> So what is Ron Paul's /real/ agenda - I just can't adjust my thinking >> the point where I can believe that a white guy wearing a tie might not >> be lying to me. Any faith or trust I may once have had in that system >> has be eradicated over the last couple decades of deconstruction >> applied to pretty much everything that was ever actually gotten right >> in the conception and implementation of the idea we call The United >> States of America. And I'm finding more and more (in my old age) that >> there was precious little that was got right to begin with. >> >> > > The fact that he's a white guy with a tie doesn't mean he's evil. The > fact that he's an old white guy with a tie *might* mean, all by > itself, that he'll never win the popularity contest necessary to be > president. > > Malcolm Gladwell would probably say this is "The Warren Harding Error" > corollary. > > http://tourniquet.on.silkware.com/Blink-The-Warren-Harding-Error.2343.entry > > >> So far, this current regime has violated every single other article and >> clause of the Constitution of the United States of America. Why should >> we - at this late date - believe that they will abide the clause >> concerning term limits, or even that the heads of the executive branch >> must be the same as those for whom votes are cast? What's to stop them >> from simply issuing an executive order appointing the next ruler(s)? >> >> > > Crossing the tinfoil-hat line with that one. > > >> "cannon fodder" in the Regime's War for Total Global Domination. If >> you're cool with that, you're probably one of the 1%, and hence simply >> do not matter at all, in the real world outside your gated community. >> >> > > I live in one of the few uppity communities *without* a gate, > thankyouverymuch! > > Anyway, doomsday predictions about evil government is hardly a new > meme, by any stretch of the imagination. I think it's important to > remain positive, and focus on constructive efforts. As citizens, our > best tool to affect change is education. The intarwebs make this > easier, so it's an interesting time to live in. > > Cheers! > Eater > >
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