When STSC came out with an APL for the PC I got quite good at reading the
extended ASCII characters as their APL equivalent. It was really great when
I finally broke down and bought the APL character generator chip from STSC.

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 10:26 AM Devon McCormick <[email protected]> wrote:

> The APL print train we had on our IBM line-printers was adapted from a
> "library" chain because it had Greek letters on it.  If you ever looked at
> the chain after it had been in use for a while, you would see one shiny,
> unused character on it: the lower-case lambda which was a remnant of the
> original chain but was not used in APL.
>
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Robert Bernecky <
> [email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > A few points:
> >
> > - The BGT (Blasted Goldball Terminals) were indeed noisy, but
> >    they did make a better carbon copy than the 327X screens.
> >
> > - I wrote what was the first "teletype support" for SHARP APL,
> >   I think in 1972 or 1973, for our University of Toronto in-house site.
> >   Character mapping, was a nightmare, and none of us (Roger Moore
> >   and I)  were never happy with any of the schemes we used for them.
> >
> > - The APL-ASCII terminals came along later, in two flavors - "bit-paired"
> >   and "typewriter-paired", due to the terminal manufacturers' inability
> >   to agree on anything. These were either dot-matrix terminals
> >   or "print wheel"-based ones. I think the latter were made possible by
> >   the advent of small, inexpensive stepping motors.
> >
> > - We did have APL print trains on the 1403N1 printers with UCS.
> >   The earlier 1403 printers, with print chains, did not have APL,
> >   so this was A Great Advance.  The print chains were not amenable
> >   to local mods, but the trains had print slugs that you could replace,
> >   to make a custom character set.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > On 2018-06-17 04:18 AM, Ian Clark wrote:
> >
> >> At the IBM Scientific Centre in Peterlee we had 3270-series terminals
> for
> >> APL characters from 1975, I'm pretty sure. But I learned my APL around
> >> 1973
> >> on an EBCDIC-only 3277. No, I didn't use that absurd curly bracketed
> >> notation – the first mainframe APL I used was APLSV, which had separate
> >> 256-byte input- and output-tables as editable text files. If you had a
> >> spare afternoon you could customise them however you liked, and I
> >> cobbled-up a usable APL alphabet (small-e for epsilon, small-i for iota,
> >> etc) omitting the rarer characters like domino and covering them if
> >> needed,
> >> or copy/pasting the character from quadAV.
> >>
> >> When at last I was able to type real APL characters I didn't take to
> them
> >> at all – I couldn't read the code.
> >>
> >> But nobody ever read the code. APL was proud of being a Write-Only
> >> language. But I felt the shame. There I was, able to read assembly code
> as
> >> fluently as a newspaper, but I couldn't read an APL program I had just
> >> written.
> >>
> >> Fortunately I never had to use one of those blasted golfball terminals
> >> which sounded like a tommy gun. They were in heavy use by our project
> >> partners ADSS Mohansic for prototyping software (in APL) intended for
> the
> >> hush-hush FS (Future-Series) mainframe. When you walked into their lab,
> >> with a hundred APL programmers all beavering away, the noise was
> >> deafening.
> >>
> >> In those days computers were IPL-ed daily (Initial Program Load-ed) –
> and
> >> the FS prototype took longer and longer to IPL as emulation piled on
> >> emulation (I think they were using APL to emulate the instruction set!)
> >> Eventually it exceeded 24 hours, at which point the project was
> cancelled,
> >> to great staff and customer consternation.
> >>
> >> So the story goes.
> >>
> >> Shortly afterward, on one of my regular transatlantic jaunts, I referred
> >> airily in conversation to an "Iverson Ball". My interlocutor, a
> born-again
> >> evangelical, curtly informed me it was called the Iverson Printing
> >> Element.
> >>
> >> Ian
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 10:26 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Other problems. Never heard of a print train with APL characters for
> high
> >>> speed printers. Had to have a special type ball for Selectric
> >>> typewriters.
> >>> It wasn't until the late 1970's that teletype matrix terminals started
> >>> supporting APL characters. Likewise for 3270 monitors.
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