>>>>> "MJR" == Mark J Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    MJR> Yeah, I know that. I was commenting on your double standard,
    MJR> where it's acceptable for users of your software to waive
    MJR> their right to sue you for damages, but "totally reckless and
    MJR> stupid" for Sun's users to do the same.

The GPL non-warranty says that users can't sue me. It's a repudiation
of liability, to the extent possible in law. The JRE license says that
we (collectively) accept liability for problems with the *JRE*, not
with Fred.

        "you agree to defend and indemnify Sun and its licensors from
        and against any damages, costs, liabilities, settlement
        amounts and/or expenses (including attorneys' fees) incurred
        in connection with any claim, lawsuit or action by any third
        party that arises or results from the use or distribution of
        any and all Programs and/or Software."

("Programs" = our stuff, "Software" = Sun stuff). That means that we
are responsible if there is any problems with the JRE -- even separate
from the use of Fred.

    MJR> Or were you demanding that your users do a reckless and
    MJR> stupid thing?

I demand that they do 6 reckless and stupid things before
breakfast.

~Mr. Bad

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