On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 08:37:12PM -0600, Mark J Roberts wrote:
> Travis Bemann:
> > government is amoral and has no ethics
> 
> Why, then, does our government punish criminals and not innocent
> people? Why does it fight murderous totalitarian communism, and not
> wage war on democracy and our free market?
> 
> Despite whatever paranoid, drug-induced ramblings the admitted
> communist and pedophile (he "earned" his doctorate with sexual
> favors) Noam Chomsky exudes from the ivory tower, the simple and
> obvious fact is that our government rocks.

And did you forget all the stuff he did with linguistics...  Talk
about ad hominem - those two words adequately describe at least this
whole paragraph of yours.

> > the optimum state of government is eternal war externally and
> > totalitarianism internally
> 
> I know you leftists are pining for eternal war and totalitarianism,
> it's not a big secret - you support Soviet imperialism and Osama Bin
> Laden, remember? (In fact, your raving pinko leader Chomsky recently
> traveled to Pakistan to incite anti-American hatred and support for
> the totalitarian Taliban theocracy.)

LOL.  Anyways, I meant "optimum" as in optimum from the position of a
politician, not as in being good in any respect.  The natural state of
government, of the state, is essentially fascism, and you should have
noticed this if you paid any real attention to history.  And you
didn't noticed that I said what I did as a criticism of government,
not as supporting it...

> > this is concealed by the propaganda organs of capitalism
> 
> Yes, that's right, surely anyone who does not support mass murder
> and famine and communism has been duped by the capitalist propaganda
> organs. I must agree it's quite effective.
> 
> > non-ruling class life is purely expendable - any views that appear
> > otherwise are really just propaganda
> 
> So you've said, you smug communist butcher.

LOL.  You can't tell the difference between an anarchist and a
Bolshevik or Stalinist, it seems...  Despite history showing that
they're quite different in not just theory but practice.

> > The law means fucking nothing.  Period.
> 
> Of course communists such as yourself have no respect for the law.
> Take your Marxist legal theory and your Gulag and move to North
> Korea where they'll be appreciated. Please, go.

Yeah.  I'm really going to go leave AND become a Stalinist because you
say so.  Yeah right.  You don't even attempt to argue rationally, but
instead just use ad hominem attacks...

-- 
Yes, I know my enemies.
They're the teachers who tell me to fight me.
Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission, ignorance,
hypocrisy, brutality, the elite.
All of which are American dreams.

              - Rage Against The Machine
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