Or the one made about UNIX being a diamond that exists in a heap of brown stuff.
Same general idea: the real world tends to get dirty at times. On Nov 7, 2007 7:52 AM, Devon McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe the "mud" versus "diamond" comment was a reference to the quote > > APL is like a diamond. It has a beautiful crystal structure; all of its > parts are related in a uniform and elegant way. But if you try to extend > this structure in any way - even by adding another diamond - you get an > ugly > kludge. LISP, on the other hand, is like a ball of mud. You can add any > amount of mud to it and it still looks like a ball of mud. (Joel Moses) > > or one like it. > > On 11/7/07, Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 11/6/07, Oleg Kobchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Why is u/ not equivalent to a loop? > > > There is a very severe performance penalty. > > > Lisp/SmallTalk can be defined by itself. > > > But because in APL control structure are deficient, it cannot. > > > That's the whole mud vs diamond argument; and this control flow issue > > > is at its core. > > > > This seems like a bunch of unrelated issues. > > ... > > Finally, I do not know about "mud' but diamond was > > basically an alternate line-end character (albeit, one which > > got special treatment from APL's goto, in that goto did > > not recognize diamonds when counting lines). > > > > -- > > Raul > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > -- > Devon McCormick, CFA > ^me^ at acm. > org is my > preferred e-mail > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- Use Reply-To: & thread your email after the first: or it may take a while, as I get 2000 emails per day. -- Roy A. Crabtree UNC '76 gaa.lifer# (For TN contact, email me to set up a confirmed date/time) voicemail inbound only [When you hear/read/see/feel what a y*ehudi plays/writes/sculpts/holds] [(n)either violinist {Menuhin} (n)or writer {"The Y*ehudi Principle"} (n)or molder (n)or older] [you must strive/think/look/sense all of it, or you will miss the meanings of it all] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Forwards only to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: auto to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be short < 160 chars cuts off; currently offline [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: auto to ^ http://www.authorsden.com/royacrabtree http://skyscraper.fortunecity.com/activex/720/resume/full.doc -- (c) RAC/IP, ARE,PRO,PAST (Copyright) Roy Andrew Crabtree/In Perpetuity All Rights/Reserved Explicitly Public Reuse Only Profits Always Safe Traded ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
