Thunderbolt is not just for apple. Intel supports this heavily and it has advantages over USB-C.
USB-C, when used as a display port connector carries the same digital signalling so I guess different connector, same old stuff inside. Thanks ZK On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Jeffrey Lane <[email protected]> wrote: > Just out of curiosity, is Thunderbolt really consideration for Client > Cert now? AFAIK, only Apple uses it, and more importantly, Apple is > in the process of abandoning it for USB-C, it would seem. > > Jeff > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Ara Pulido <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> On 25/03/15 12:42, Zygmunt Krynicki wrote: >>> I agree there are some setup considerations. >>> >>> We should think about what we currently do (e.g. extra storage drive >>> or thumb drive or blank/rewritable optical disk) and see how we want >>> to handle things like this. >>> My gut feeling is that we should have something other than a job and >>> that for certification testing we should just do manifests and ignore >>> all the mumbo-jumbo flaky detection. It's not worth it and it doesn't >>> solve the problem. Let's focus on how to incorporate manifests into >>> our workflow. Then knowing the canonical identifier of the machine >>> being tested we can just load the manifest and test without flaky >>> guesses. >> >> I agree manifests seems to be the way to go. But this is a long term >> plan, that I agree we should pursue, but not relevant to TB. >> >> For TB, as we need the tests now, let's stick to the asking the user >> thing for now. >> >> Let's discuss manifest in parallel. >> >> Thanks, >> Ara. >> >>> >>> Thanks >>> ZK >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Ara Pulido <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 25/03/15 11:00, Zygmunt Krynicki wrote: >>>>> Hey. >>>>> >>>>> So my opinion on thunderbolt is that it is actually pretty good that >>>>> we cannot detect it. The last thing we should do is ask the user. At >>>>> the end of the day, we'll clone all the tests and replace the word >>>>> "display port" with "thunderbolt". >>>> >>>> So, we have three tests to create: >>>> >>>> 1) Displays - I agree that in this case it is equivalent to DP >>>> 2) TB Storage >>>> 3) Ability to put a TB storage device connected to the TB monitor, which >>>> is connected to the system. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> The only exception is the daisy-chain test which should IMHO follow >>>>> our dependency step process where we ask the user to setup a >>>>> particular configuration before doing a off-the-mill storage test. >>>> >>>> Exactly, that's the exception, but that's a test that we need to create, >>>> and only offer to those systems that have a TB port. >>>> >>>> That's why we need to identify those TB (by asking the user), just >>>> because of the daisy chain one, but that's enough to have the test. >>>> >>>> Specially because we have just 1 TB monitor, so imagine that you are >>>> testing a system (from a pile that you need to test) and you don't >>>> realize it is a TB one: >>>> >>>> 1) You start testing >>>> 2) Checkbox thinks is a DP, so asks you to plug a DP monitor >>>> 3) You do it >>>> 4) Then it asks you to do daisy chain, if you have a TB port, and then >>>> you realize it is actually a TB one, so you need to remove that monitor >>>> and go and get the TB one. This wastes time. >>>> >>>> I think we should ask the user whether this is a TB system, and do it at >>>> the very beginning of the run. >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> Ara. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thunderbolt is display port. Let's not clone display tests because the >>>>> color and shape of the plug is different. Storage tests are different >>>>> because we're not testing thunderbolt. We're testing the add-on dongle >>>>> that adapts SATA or other storage device to work over PCI-E. This is >>>>> just a new shape for a storage controller card. We have tests for >>>>> storage. Nothing to see here, move along. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> ZK >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~checkbox-dev >>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~checkbox-dev >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~checkbox-dev >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~checkbox-dev >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > -- > "Entropy isn't what it used to be." > > Jeff Lane - Server Certification Team Lead, Tools Developer, Warrior > Poet, Lover of Pie > Phone: 919-442-8649 > Ubuntu Ham: W4KDH Freenode IRC: bladernr or bladernr_ > gpg: 1024D/3A14B2DD 8C88 B076 0DD7 B404 1417 C466 4ABD 3635 3A14 B2DD -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~checkbox-dev Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~checkbox-dev More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
