We definitely will, and hope to contribute a lot to ChicagoBoss as we grow 
our team

On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:13:04 PM UTC-6, Nick Pavlica wrote:
>
> Karim,
>
> On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 5:02:42 PM UTC-7, Karim Dahmani wrote:
>>
>> Nick thanks for your valuable input,
>>
>> My developers are already getting up to speed and are loving CB/Erlang, 
>> Elixir is next.
>>
>
>   Awesome,  happy they are loving it!  
>
> As far as developing the product I described in 6 months that is obviously 
>> not going to be the
>> full feature set of Trip Advisor as we don't even need that much, only 
>> the components I mentioned
>> above.
>>
>
>   Thanks for the clarification!  Please share the site with us when your 
> ready!
>
>    -- Nick
>
>  
>
>>  
>>
> Thanks,
>> Karim
>>
>
>
>
>  
>
>>
>> On Monday, January 27, 2014 2:01:32 PM UTC-6, Nick Pavlica wrote:
>>>
>>> Karim,
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 24, 2014 11:26:43 AM UTC-7, Karim Dahmani wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They are slowly getting convinced, but they adamantly want to stick to 
>>>> ChicagoBoss over Zotonic
>>>> if we are going to use Erlang which we will, since I have had a very 
>>>> good experience back in 
>>>> 2001 when I was involved (as a partner not as a developer) in creating 
>>>> a layer 5 switch totally built in erlang.  
>>>>
>>>
>>> Erlang is an excellent language/runtime for web applications, and offers 
>>> a number of advantages over the other languages and frameworks mentioned in 
>>> this thread.  Additionally, Elixer, another language for the EVM, can be 
>>> used as well.  Elixer is gaining allot of support from some serious players 
>>> in the Ruby/Ruby On Rails community like Dave Thomas.  Your developers 
>>> should pick up enough Erlang/Elixer quickly enough that they can get the 
>>> the basics done, and grow from there.  If they can't, you should reconsider 
>>> the real value of your team.  Over the long run, I think you, and your team 
>>> would be happier with ChicagoBoss.  Going with a general purpose framework 
>>> will allow you to more easily grow into your real requirements :)
>>>    
>>>
>>>> As I had mentioned previously we are building a site that is similar to 
>>>> Trip Advisor but for the online gambling
>>>> industry, so if we are going to be starting from scratch with CB and 
>>>> would have to create all the following modules
>>>>
>>>> 1. CMS (with all the standard functionality such as seo modules, RSS 
>>>> feeds, support for media embedding
>>>> 2. Forum
>>>> 3. Social Media integration (Facebook login and registration and 
>>>> profile synching)
>>>> 4. Review modules
>>>>
>>>> Could something like this be done in 6 months with 4-5 developers using 
>>>> CB?
>>>>
>>>
>>> You should have a good start in 6 months, but it seems a little naive to 
>>> think that you will be at parity with a site like Trip Advisor that has 
>>> been under development for years.
>>>  
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> -- Nick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, January 24, 2014 3:13:00 AM UTC-6, David Welton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Thanks for your reply, I have decided to use some sort of Erlang 
>>>>> Framwework 
>>>>> > to develop a site that is similar in features to 
>>>>> > Trip Advisor, we have thrown away 3 complete rewrites in PHP, my 
>>>>> biggest 
>>>>> > issue right now is that my developers are pushing 
>>>>> > really hard to go with Django, and they tell me that Erlang is not 
>>>>> well 
>>>>> > suited to this type of project and there are no large scale 
>>>>> > websites that use Erlang, and information I can use to prove my 
>>>>> point would 
>>>>> > be of great help. I do have to say that they have 
>>>>> > no experience with Erlang but my take is that they can definitely 
>>>>> learn it. 
>>>>>
>>>>> If you hired them to code, presumably they know what they are doing 
>>>>> and are giving you good advice, no? 
>>>>>
>>>>> For *most* new sites, the difficult problem is finding product/market 
>>>>> fit - can we get the right mix of features/community/whatever to make 
>>>>> it successful?  This often requires rapid iteration - adding new 
>>>>> stuff, trying new ideas, and with something like Django, or Ruby on 
>>>>> Rails, or even PHP, you're more likely to find a lot of code to use 
>>>>> out of the box. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Where Erlang is really good is that it uses fewer resources to 
>>>>> accomplish the same thing.  One area where Erlang *really* shines is 
>>>>> if you need to use web sockets.  Those just aren't a good fit for 
>>>>> Rails or Django.  For some kinds of projects, these things are 
>>>>> critical - for many, though, they are not. 
>>>>>
>>>>> There are certainly large and well-known projects that utilize Erlang. 
>>>>>  Whatsapp.  Facebook used to use it for their chat system 
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> David N. Welton 
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.welton.it/davidw/ 
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.dedasys.com/ 
>>>>>
>>>>

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