Thanks! Much appreciated! On Friday, January 31, 2014 6:51:19 PM UTC-6, Nick Pavlica wrote: > > Karim, > > On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:49:38 PM UTC-7, Karim Dahmani wrote: >> >> Nick one more quick question, do you think Riak would be the best choice >> as far as databases to use with CB? >> > > If a NoSQLDB is right for your project, Riak would be a good choice. > However, Postgresql also has allot to offer as well. > > -- Nick > > > > >> On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:13:04 PM UTC-6, Nick Pavlica wrote: >>> >>> Karim, >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 5:02:42 PM UTC-7, Karim Dahmani wrote: >>>> >>>> Nick thanks for your valuable input, >>>> >>>> My developers are already getting up to speed and are loving CB/Erlang, >>>> Elixir is next. >>>> >>> >>> Awesome, happy they are loving it! >>> >>> As far as developing the product I described in 6 months that is >>>> obviously not going to be the >>>> full feature set of Trip Advisor as we don't even need that much, only >>>> the components I mentioned >>>> above. >>>> >>> >>> Thanks for the clarification! Please share the site with us when your >>> ready! >>> >>> -- Nick >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> Thanks, >>>> Karim >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, January 27, 2014 2:01:32 PM UTC-6, Nick Pavlica wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Karim, >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, January 24, 2014 11:26:43 AM UTC-7, Karim Dahmani wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> They are slowly getting convinced, but they adamantly want to stick >>>>>> to ChicagoBoss over Zotonic >>>>>> if we are going to use Erlang which we will, since I have had a very >>>>>> good experience back in >>>>>> 2001 when I was involved (as a partner not as a developer) in >>>>>> creating a layer 5 switch totally built in erlang. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Erlang is an excellent language/runtime for web applications, and >>>>> offers a number of advantages over the other languages and frameworks >>>>> mentioned in this thread. Additionally, Elixer, another language for the >>>>> EVM, can be used as well. Elixer is gaining allot of support from some >>>>> serious players in the Ruby/Ruby On Rails community like Dave Thomas. >>>>> Your >>>>> developers should pick up enough Erlang/Elixer quickly enough that they >>>>> can >>>>> get the the basics done, and grow from there. If they can't, you should >>>>> reconsider the real value of your team. Over the long run, I think you, >>>>> and your team would be happier with ChicagoBoss. Going with a general >>>>> purpose framework will allow you to more easily grow into your real >>>>> requirements :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> As I had mentioned previously we are building a site that is similar >>>>>> to Trip Advisor but for the online gambling >>>>>> industry, so if we are going to be starting from scratch with CB and >>>>>> would have to create all the following modules >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. CMS (with all the standard functionality such as seo modules, RSS >>>>>> feeds, support for media embedding >>>>>> 2. Forum >>>>>> 3. Social Media integration (Facebook login and registration and >>>>>> profile synching) >>>>>> 4. Review modules >>>>>> >>>>>> Could something like this be done in 6 months with 4-5 developers >>>>>> using CB? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You should have a good start in 6 months, but it seems a little naive >>>>> to think that you will be at parity with a site like Trip Advisor that >>>>> has >>>>> been under development for years. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> -- Nick >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, January 24, 2014 3:13:00 AM UTC-6, David Welton wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > Thanks for your reply, I have decided to use some sort of Erlang >>>>>>> Framwework >>>>>>> > to develop a site that is similar in features to >>>>>>> > Trip Advisor, we have thrown away 3 complete rewrites in PHP, my >>>>>>> biggest >>>>>>> > issue right now is that my developers are pushing >>>>>>> > really hard to go with Django, and they tell me that Erlang is not >>>>>>> well >>>>>>> > suited to this type of project and there are no large scale >>>>>>> > websites that use Erlang, and information I can use to prove my >>>>>>> point would >>>>>>> > be of great help. I do have to say that they have >>>>>>> > no experience with Erlang but my take is that they can definitely >>>>>>> learn it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you hired them to code, presumably they know what they are doing >>>>>>> and are giving you good advice, no? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For *most* new sites, the difficult problem is finding >>>>>>> product/market >>>>>>> fit - can we get the right mix of features/community/whatever to >>>>>>> make >>>>>>> it successful? This often requires rapid iteration - adding new >>>>>>> stuff, trying new ideas, and with something like Django, or Ruby on >>>>>>> Rails, or even PHP, you're more likely to find a lot of code to use >>>>>>> out of the box. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Where Erlang is really good is that it uses fewer resources to >>>>>>> accomplish the same thing. One area where Erlang *really* shines is >>>>>>> if you need to use web sockets. Those just aren't a good fit for >>>>>>> Rails or Django. For some kinds of projects, these things are >>>>>>> critical - for many, though, they are not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are certainly large and well-known projects that utilize >>>>>>> Erlang. >>>>>>> Whatsapp. Facebook used to use it for their chat system >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> David N. Welton >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.welton.it/davidw/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.dedasys.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>
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