did I read somewhere/someone wrote pork is bad?? and if so why??

Jen-CA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I puree' (sp) them with veggies and the dust and also yogurt.  Yum Yum
 
Jen-CA

ntvlawher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am going to asl my butcher about the bone dust. I was wondering how
I would incorporate this into the food, but a treat is a good idea. I
give the boys veal bones, but I worry that they might be too rich for
them? I know you had mentioned that you also give the ground egg
shells. Do you grind them yourself or are you purchasing that?

Good to know about the pork freezing as well.

cheers!
DD.

--- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, Jen-CA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the encouraging emails.  I felt like I was getting my
teeth kicked in and planned on not responding to anymore emails. I
like you have a butcher who is awesome.  He grinds bone, meat, and
spleen up into a wonderful patty for me to split amoungst my dogs.  I
also offer chicken necks, fish, and very few fruits and veggies.  I am
still in the learning process which will continue as long as I have
animals.
>   
>   The statements made in past emails about animals dying due to
raw.....
>   
>   RECALL Diamond dog food.  I wonder how many dogs died from that?
>   RECALL Royal Canin canned foods,  I wonder how many dogs died from
that?
>   
>   This is just recent recalls I won't waste my time digging up past
recalls and wondering how many poor animals suffered due to
contaminated processed foods.
>   
>   As far as pork, I have read you can freeze it up to 3 months then
use it. Seams kind of pointless since there are so many other meats to
choose from huh? but it can be done.  My butcher puts bones through
the saw and has this huge pile of Bone Dust it is chicken, pork and
beef. So I get it for free, freeze it for 3 months then add it to some
fruits and veggies and Wala! a snack.
>   
>   Thanks so much for your emails.  I do not claim to be an expert
but love to share what has worked for me.
>   
>   Jen-CA
>
> ntvlawher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Jen,
> I totally agree with you. The raw diet is fantastic, and there is such
> a huge difference between the digestion of humans and the digestion of
> animals that the bacteria in meat being toxic to dogs is just not
> true. The only thing I have ever heard that you shouldn't feed is pork
> as it can cause trichanosis. (funnily enough a man-produced bacteria
> strain). Not to mention that a dog will bury a bone and dig it up
> weeks later and feast on the rotting stinky thing with no ill-effects.
>
> Do you make your recipe or do you buy it? I make mine, and it works
> pretty well, I have a butcher near me who sells grind ends for cheap,
> my only concern is finding the right supplement. right now I am using
> a smidge of spirulina for minerals and vitamens, but am thinking of
> growing some wheat grass this summer for a little addition.
>
> I used to make the boys stew and pour it over kibbles, but my chi is
> getting a little chunky and the mini pin (a new addition) is a
> diabetic and this diet was specifically suggested as being best for
> him. It is working well.
>
> A holistic vet is a must for this type of diet aswell. I wish there
> were more in Ottawa where I am.
>
> --- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, Jen-CA <wartenaschihuahuas@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >   
> >   You need to find holistic vets.  Vets do not go to vet school to
> study nutrition that is why they offer Science Diet at their offices.
> One of the worse dog foods on the market plus the get a pretty good
> size commission.  Raw feeding is one of the most natural ways to feed.
> Do you think they hunted Iams in the wild? just because they are
> domesticated does not make them any less of an animal.  do we feed our
> lions and snakes Lion and snake kibble? NO we feed them what they
> would get in the wild, now why do we insist on doing our dogs
> differently?   They eat what we give them because they have no choice.
> If you stick raw meat down on the ground and your dogs current
> favorite food and lets see what they choose.  How many times do you
> take your dog to the vet to be put under dangerous anesthetic to get
> its teeth cleaned from tarter build up?  Where on earth does that
> tarter come from? Do you think Kibble cleans the teeth? Do cookies
> clean ours? lol With the natural diet
> >  there is no need for teeth cleaning. 
> >   
> >   Study the dogs immune system and find out that ecoli and semolina
> breaks down in dogs differently. to say a dog is just like us is just
> plan uneducated.  We are no more like dogs as we are bears, cats,
> birds.  We all have our own way of processing foods differently.  I
> sure would not eat dog food either.  And why so much corn in the dog
> food? Ever have a real bad shedding dog? ever have a scratching dry
> skin dog? allergies to grains.  Real common.
> >   
> >   Study away! and buy a few holistic books as well, some state
> grains and what each one does for our dog but most BARF freeders do
> not use grains.  The only time a dog gets grains is in the stomach of
> its prey.  So grains, fruits and Veggies are really not necessary but
> some offer it.  Good luck with the studies, also type in "dog food
> processing plants" in your search engine read some of those articles
> :-( nasty. 
> >   
> >   Jen-CA
> >   
> >  
> >  
> >
> > Kay Lewis <granniekay@> wrote:
> >   Katie,
> > Please think long and hard about raw food.  Now carrots or potatoes or
> > celery or grapes are fine.  But please, have you researched eating raw
> > meat?   Every single thing that a human can get from eating raw or
> > unprocessed meat a dog or cat can get too.  And with bird flu and the
> > problem with eggs, I'd be darn careful.   Do your homework and I do
> > mean to look at more then just the sites that says how wonderful it
> > it, look at some of the sites that also tell the pit falls of this
> > practice.
> >
> > It's a fad that comes and goes every few years. But I have yet to meet
> > a Vet that will recommend raw meat, especially beef or chicken for any
> > animal.  
> >
> > Why not look into all the homemade cooked dog food receipts before
> > putting your Chi's health on the line.  As long as good vitamins and
> > minerals and all that are added or given to the dog daily most home
> > made dog food is great.  Commercial dog foods didn't even get popular
> > until the 60's, before that everyone cooked for their dogs.
> >
> >
> > --- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, kaaterwaul@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a web site for a good complete RAW  diet that has
> home
> > > delivery?  I only have the one chi(two soon), and I  don't live very
> > close to pet
> > > stores.
> > > thanks
> > > katie
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