*That they all do...LOL...Some are very set in there way's dry dry dry...But you know I see changes in the dog's and I can't say I am impressed with them all..Mine have never been fed can food occasional table scrap now and then there teeth become an issue..I have several between the ages of 12/14 and I worry about them on kibble that there not getting enough because of there gums etc..2 of my oldest girls came from a breeder who is adimant that the switch to RAW is no good...One girl has a heart issues and the other is aging...My old boy who is 12 out lived his brother who we lost 4 years ago and now I have his son who I worry constantly over..since we lost skippy at an early age..I am open to learn about better things for my fur kids just as I am about breeding... * On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Darcy Jacobs <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > well it takes a very long time to make change... i just know once a raw > plan is established and the dog has been given enough time to properly > adjust i know of no one who has gone back to kibble...and im on 3 very busy > boards. ... you let me know if anyone poses a question you want help to > answer =)~... > darcy > > > --- On *Fri, 8/20/10, Joyce mccarthy <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Joyce mccarthy <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Raw diet > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 6:30 PM > > > > *Like I said I am going to try and figure out the cost to feed my gang...I > asked about this amongst my own group and the breeders there and there is > more CON then there is Pro but from seeing how the dogs go up and down at > times and how much waste they create...I am willing to try.. > * > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Darcy Jacobs > <[email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > you have gotten great advice... id just add..... use your liver and > bone content to adjust the elimination consistancy of the dogs... too hard > add more liver too soft add more bone... > darcy > > > --- On *Fri, 8/20/10, dasha > <[email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >* wrote: > > > From: dasha > <[email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Raw diet > To: > [email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 3:13 PM > > > > Well you know breast fed babies don't eat as much at a single feeding as > bottle fed babies. And it is harder to gauge how much they have had. I have > done both and putting a breast fed baby on a schedule never made any sense > to me at all. Sometimes the more people learn, the more complicated things > become. Simple can really be better. Plus what goes around usually comes > around > > Sheila > > ------------------------------ > *From:* > [email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>[mailto: > [email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Deanna Corey > *Sent:* Friday, August 20, 2010 2:31 PM > *To:* > [email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [Chihuahuas] Raw diet > > I had so many friends that got on me for demand feeding Dasha...they > thought I was nuts...but ya have to remember that was 25 years ago! People > have learned a lot since then...or should I say "unlearned"...sometimes the > old simple ways are the best...just like we are un-learning with our dogs as > well! > > Hugs In Him, > Deanna > > And the Corey Crew: > > Wife to my best friend: Mark-ie Pooh...married 29 years 6/27/10 > Mom to 4 Children: Andrea 26, Jimmy 22, Baxter 19 and Molly 11 > Grandma to 4: Lori, Evelyn Rose, Jack and Cameron > > Mom to Fur babies: > Nugget (MiniPoodle)www.dogster.com/dogs/1085245, > Shuai-Li (Shih Tzu)www.dogster.com/dogs/1129251, > Bella-Rose (Pomeranian)http://www.dogster.com/dogs/1136706 > Mouse (Chihuahua)www.dogster.com/dogs/1005934, > Myrtle May (Chihuahua) > and Caleb (Rott/chow mix)www.dogster.com/dogs/988612 > > Mom to feathered kids: Stella (Blue and Gold Macaw) and Stanley (Double > Yellow Headed Amazon) > > and the curtain climber: Miles www.catster.com/cats/895000 > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* dasha > <[email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > *To:* > [email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > *Sent:* Fri, August 20, 2010 11:22:28 AM > *Subject:* RE: [Chihuahuas] Raw diet > > > I could not imagine feeding a breast fed baby on a schedule. That seems > like more hassle than it is worth cause breast fed babies eat differently > than the bottle fed ones.. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* > [email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>[mailto: > [email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Deanna Corey > *Sent:* Friday, August 20, 2010 2:16 PM > *To:* > [email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [Chihuahuas] Raw diet > > Joyce...I needed to add something I forgot...with mine under 6 months I > feed till they are full...I don't weigh everything out. I know many would > disagree with this but puppies should not be regulated in my opinion...and I > feed anyone under a year 3 times a day not two...especially tiny Chi's. BUT > i am also the nut who breast fed my babies on demand when they wanted > it...not scheduled LOL! > > Hugs In Him, > Deanna > > And the Corey Crew: > > Wife to my best friend: Mark-ie Pooh...married 29 years 6/27/10 > Mom to 4 Children: Andrea 26, Jimmy 22, Baxter 19 and Molly 11 > Grandma to 4: Lori, Evelyn Rose, Jack and Cameron > > Mom to Fur babies: > Nugget (MiniPoodle)www.dogster.com/dogs/1085245, > Shuai-Li (Shih Tzu)www.dogster.com/dogs/1129251, > Bella-Rose (Pomeranian)http://www.dogster.com/dogs/1136706 > Mouse (Chihuahua)www.dogster.com/dogs/1005934, > Myrtle May (Chihuahua) > and Caleb (Rott/chow mix)www.dogster.com/dogs/988612 > > Mom to feathered kids: Stella (Blue and Gold Macaw) and Stanley (Double > Yellow Headed Amazon) > > and the curtain climber: Miles www.catster.com/cats/895000 > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Joyce mccarthy > <[email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > *To:* > [email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > *Sent:* Fri, August 20, 2010 10:56:20 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Chihuahuas] Raw diet > > > *Thanks Deanna I have fed them meats before but not raw...I know a no no > LOL..1.2 oz seems like nothing per dog but maybe being raw is the > difference..I will have to look at the grinder as well...and other then the > egg shells is there anything else I add to it?? In my group so many are > against the RAW diet but I think several have had issues with dry food and > diets lately..* > * > * > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Deanna Corey > <[email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > Joyce, > Lets say each Chi weighs an average of 5lbs. ...you say you have 10...that > is 50lbs of dog you need to feed. Each dog needs 3% of their body weight in > food each day...so for 10, 5lbs dogs that would be *24 ounces each day for > 10 dogs* OR roughly *1and 1/2 lbs of food total a day*...I would round it > up to 2lbs each day to be safe. I might use the left over for treats or to > have some first thing in the morning. I would *divide each meal into 2 > servings of 1.2 oz* each and feed one in the morning and one in the early > evening. > > I would start Chi's on chicken breast as it is the easiest meat to digest. > The dark meat has more fat so a little harder to digest. I would remove the > skin of the breasts and I would throw them into the grinder and feed ground. > No worries about bone splinters with the little guys and they will still get > the nutrients from the bone. Then after I had them use to the breasts for > awhile I would add in other meats...dark meat, lamb, lean beef, etc. > > *If you do not have a grinder* then what I would do is to still start with > the breasts and chop the meat with a knife into appropriate size Chi chunks. > Then I would take a few dry eggs shells from my breakfast and pulverize them > either in a little electric coffee grinder, a mixing wand or a little > pestal/mortar type thing and add *1 tsp of the egg shell per 1 lb of meat*to > my breast chunks to make up for the calcium loss from no bone until I > could get a grinder. > > If you want a grinder...the best I have found is the maverick...$99 through > www.pierceequipment.com > then put 575 Watt MM5501 Meat Food > Grinder-<http://www.pierceequipment.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PFS2000&Product_Code=mav1150275501&Category_Code=> > in the search bar at the sight. > > Here are all the ratios you will need in the future: > *1.Dogs need 3% of their DESIRED body weight each day...as a general rule* > *2. To find 3%...take the weight of your dog (we will use 5 lbs for > example here) and multiply that weight by 16* > *5lbs x 16=80 80= ounces your dog weighs* > *now divide 80 by 3%= 2.4 oz. Each 5lb dog needs 2.4 oz of food each day. > Use a calculator and punch in...in this order:* > 80 > / > 3 > % > This formula will be different if your dog weighs more or less than 5 > lbs...but whatever your dogs weight??? Just multiply by 16 to get your dogs > weight in ounces...only the number 80 will change in the formula...then you > will have the amount of OUNCES of food each dog needs to have. > > *3. Dogs need a mix of 85% meat, 10% bone and 5% organ (liver, kidney) > (don't feed organ meats daily)* > > > > > Hugs In Him, > Deanna > > And the Corey Crew: > > Wife to my best friend: Mark-ie Pooh...married 29 years 6/27/10 > Mom to 4 Children: Andrea 26, Jimmy 22, Baxter 19 and Molly 11 > Grandma to 4: Lori, Evelyn Rose, Jack and Cameron > > Mom to Fur babies: > Nugget (MiniPoodle)www.dogster.com/dogs/1085245, > Shuai-Li (Shih Tzu)www.dogster.com/dogs/1129251, > Bella-Rose (Pomeranian)http://www.dogster.com/dogs/1136706 > Mouse (Chihuahua)www.dogster.com/dogs/1005934, > Myrtle May (Chihuahua) > and Caleb (Rott/chow mix)www.dogster.com/dogs/988612 > > Mom to feathered kids: Stella (Blue and Gold Macaw) and Stanley (Double > Yellow Headed Amazon) > > and the curtain climber: Miles www.catster.com/cats/895000 > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Joyce mccarthy > <[email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > *To:* > [email protected]<http://us.mc554.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > *Sent:* Fri, August 20, 2010 9:40:54 AM > *Subject:* [Chihuahuas] Raw diet > > > *Darcy and those who feed?? Ok say for every 10 dogs one may have.. all > chi's how much food would you make at a time and and do you have Recipes > you go by?? > * > -- > *Joyce* > *www.mtnviewchis.webs.com* > > > > > > > -- > *Joyce* > *www.mtnviewchis.webs.com* > > > > > > > > -- > *Joyce* > *www.mtnviewchis.webs.com* > > > > > > -- *Joyce* *www.mtnviewchis.webs.com*
